Canada's Opposition are Enemies of Canada

[Mark Fournier]

Democratic countries working together to stop crime isn't threatening to anyone.

That's right, we've been doing it for decades, but that doesn't justify giving up our sovereignty over foreign police forces today.

[Julian]

Democratic countries working together to stop crime isn't threatening to anyone.

That's right, we've been doing it for decades, but that doesn't justify giving up our sovereignty over foreign police forces today.

Exactly! The cement headed CPC zealots couldn't care less what Harper does as long as it is Harper who does it!

[Edward Kennedy]

Democratic countries working together to stop crime isn't threatening to anyone.

That's right, we've been doing it for decades, but that doesn't justify giving up our sovereignty over foreign police forces today.

...but is that what we are doing?

[Mark Fournier]

Democratic countries working together to stop crime isn't threatening to anyone.

That's right, we've been doing it for decades, but that doesn't justify giving up our sovereignty over foreign police forces today.

...but is that what we are doing?

Of course it is, how could it be anything else? One of the most basic freedoms of citizens of any sovereign nation is freedom from foreign police forces. Why bother to have a national border if foreign agencies can come into your country and exert force against you?

[Crush]

...but is that what we are doing?

Yeah it is.

If we give up our currency, even more.

We let MASS amounts of people flood in who do consider themselves members of our Country (Quebec included), then all vote together to tip the elections in their favour so those in Parliament are not representing the best interest of Canada. They are too busy making friends with terrorists and throwing money at special intrest groups to buy votes while the Canadian (and especially rural Canadian) is asked to pay for everything.

The last one is probably the largest and most damaging and has been happening for years. So why make an issue of smaller things when the 'big' thing is right infront of our eyes.

Actually, about 50% of people in Canada speak a language other than English (when factoring in modern stats and illegal immigrants and refugees etc). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada#Language

So we basically live in a country where half of the population speak English only. The others identify themselves with 'some other' country/culture. Stephan Dion holding French citizenship. Michelle Jean the same. Both REFUSING to give it up when asked (after all they were taking high positions). And they refused.

Then Michele Jean and her husband associating with a terrorist group responsible for kidnapping and deaths so they could SEPARATE from out country. That should TELL YOU something about these people. Don't let the media think for you. Come to your own conclusion on that.

If the above is not a loss of sovereignty, I don't know what is.

This country is already broken and messed up. The 'minority' who are Canadian and American patriots who love freedom and right to peruse happiness need to come together to create a legitimate sovereign nation. Canada is broken. We lost sovereignty starting with Trudeau. They let immigrants FLOOD into Quebec to 'tip' the referendum. That's why the policy was really started back then and it's why it is so lax. If not, Quebec would have been gone and things would have been much better for all of us. Maybe we would have sovereignty right now if it wasn't for Trudeau.. who knows?

[Godwin]

My understanding is that now American law claims the right of the government to designate a person as a terrorist threat anywhere in the world, including the United States, and arrest and detain such person indefinitely without trial. Presumably US police would believe it their right and duty to arrest such a designated threat on Canadian soil. For example, such a person might be someone who donated to or in someway aided or supported an organization deemed to be a terrorist by US authorities. Perhaps merely a critic of current policies might be sufficient for this to occur.

With fundamental freedoms under threat south of the border, integration of our police and military would seem to be fraught with danger.

[Mark Fournier]

Notice too that Harper gives no compelling reason why Canadians should be subjected to the force of foreign agencies. There's been some blather about terrorists and such but nothing substantial and no reason has been offered up as to why our own police forces are not up to the job. And can anyone believe that it would just be a case of one guy coming up and making an arrest? If they are allowed to investigate Canadians in Canada they will surely be using Canadian police forces' assets to do so. This means they will have the power to give orders to our police or at least the power to see that their orders are issued. I can think of no possible reason for allowing foreign police forces to give Canadian police orders in Canada.

[Julian]

My understanding is that now American law claims the right of the government to designate a person as a terrorist threat anywhere in the world, including the United States, and arrest and detain such person indefinitely without trial. Presumably US police would believe it their right and duty to arrest such a designated threat on Canadian soil. For example, such a person might be someone who donated to or in someway aided or supported an organization deemed to be a terrorist by US authorities. Perhaps merely a critic of current policies might be sufficient for this to occur.

With fundamental freedoms under threat south of the border, integration of our police and military would seem to be fraught with danger.

So do you think if I said I'd be ecstatic if obamed dropped dead tomorrow I could find a couple of FBI agents at my door wanting to have a talk?

[Edward Kennedy]

I think the whole deal here is USA enforcement people being here to pursue US fugitives/criminals and I am fine with that. There may be reciprocity with enforcement agents from here down there too.

[Godwin]

I think the whole deal here is USA enforcement people being here to pursue US fugitives/criminals and I am fine with that. There may be reciprocity with enforcement agents from here down there too.

Since it appears to declare anybody anywhere in the world a fugitive ............ , I think your comments are foolish.

[Connie Fournier]

I think the whole deal here is USA enforcement people being here to pursue US fugitives/criminals and I am fine with that. There may be reciprocity with enforcement agents from here down there too.

No, they get to police Canadians. They can have us arrested and detained. They can't take us back to the US automatically, but that is just a matter of getting an extradition order.

[Godwin]

Own a gun.

We do not have the freedom own a gun in Canada. It requires a FAC.

[Godwin]

...but is that what we are doing?

Yeah it is.

If we give up our currency, even more.

We let MASS amounts of people flood in who do consider themselves members of our Country (Quebec included), then all vote together to tip the elections in their favour so those in Parliament are not representing the best interest of Canada. They are too busy making friends with terrorists and throwing money at special intrest groups to buy votes while the Canadian (and especially rural Canadian) is asked to pay for everything.

The last one is probably the largest and most damaging and has been happening for years. So why make an issue of smaller things when the 'big' thing is right infront of our eyes.

Actually, about 50% of people in Canada speak a language other than English (when factoring in modern stats and illegal immigrants and refugees etc). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada#Language

So we basically live in a country where half of the population speak English only. The others identify themselves with 'some other' country/culture. Stephan Dion holding French citizenship. Michelle Jean the same. Both REFUSING to give it up when asked (after all they were taking high positions). And they refused.

Then Michele Jean and her husband associating with a terrorist group responsible for kidnapping and deaths so they could SEPARATE from out country. That should TELL YOU something about these people. Don't let the media think for you. Come to your own conclusion on that.

If the above is not a loss of sovereignty, I don't know what is.

This country is already broken and messed up. The 'minority' who are Canadian and American patriots who love freedom and right to peruse happiness need to come together to create a legitimate sovereign nation. Canada is broken. We lost sovereignty starting with Trudeau. They let immigrants FLOOD into Quebec to 'tip' the referendum. That's why the policy was really started back then and it's why it is so lax. If not, Quebec would have been gone and things would have been much better for all of us. Maybe we would have sovereignty right now if it wasn't for Trudeau.. who knows?

As is typical, you refuse to discuss the topic at hand but attempt to hijack the thread.

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[Godwin]

I think the whole deal here is USA enforcement people being here to pursue US fugitives/criminals and I am fine with that. There may be reciprocity with enforcement agents from here down there too.

No, they get to police Canadians. They can have us arrested and detained. They can't take us back to the US automatically,.....

Yet?

[Mark Fournier]

1. Any power granted to a government will not be volunarily relinquished by that government.

2. Any power granted to a government will be used by that government.

3. Any power granted to a government will be expanded upon by that government.