Canada's Opposition are Enemies of Canada

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Canada's Opposition are Enemies of Canada

Postby Hodgson » 06/ 01/ 12 11:02 am

This is why the budget bill needs to be slammed through.
Pass it and get it done.
Leftists will try to hold it up forever and applaud themselves for "stopping Harper".

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/pol ... le2446013/

An omnibus budget bill that will affect many aspects of Canadian life faces a rocky ride over the next four weeks as opposition members try to thwart Conservative plans to have it passed into law before Parliament rises for the summer.

Green Party Leader Elizabeth May and the Liberals have jointly concocted a plan to delay the passage of the 425-page Bill C-38 and are threatening to put it into action if the government does not agree to.......
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Re: Canada's Opposition are Enemies of Canada

Postby InTouch » 06/ 01/ 12 11:12 am

There are too many changes to existing legislation for the budget to go through in its present form for this small-c to think it is a good budget.
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Re: Canada's Opposition are Enemies of Canada

Postby Angleland » 06/ 01/ 12 11:33 am

If the budget itself had been some sort of masterpiece of cutting both spending and taxes, I might have been tempted to think of half loaves and watered wine with respect to the other items.

The budget however, was a dud. Getting rid of the penny. Big Whoop as Rush would say.

Enemy of Canada?

I recall being called that back in 1992 when I and others campaigned against the Charlaton Accord. I got nasty letters from family members and even Mulroney, the Prime Minister of Quebec who left out the word 'Labrador' from the name of Newfoundland and Labrador whenever he spoke in French to his true country of Quebec, called those of us upposed to Charlaton 'Enemies of Canada'.

Now we have someone else using the same phrase. Oh well.
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Re: Canada's Opposition are Enemies of Canada

Postby Crush » 06/ 01/ 12 1:36 pm

Angleland wrote:If the budget itself had been some sort of masterpiece of cutting both spending and taxes, I might have been tempted to think of half loaves and watered wine with respect to the other items.

The budget however, was a dud. Getting rid of the penny. Big Whoop as Rush would say.

Enemy of Canada?

I recall being called that back in 1992 when I and others campaigned against the Charlaton Accord. I got nasty letters from family members and even Mulroney, the Prime Minister of Quebec who left out the word 'Labrador' from the name of Newfoundland and Labrador whenever he spoke in French to his true country of Quebec, called those of us upposed to Charlaton 'Enemies of Canada'.

Now we have someone else using the same phrase. Oh well.


I'm still waiting to see civil servants laid off as they seem to be hell bent on attacking victims in the private sector. They call them 'frequent users' of EI. Does he think that people like getting laid off and being out of work? Does he think this is some sort of game where we work full time for 8 months just so we can collect EI? The only frequent users are seasonal workers and substitute teachers who go on the dole regularly each year as a supplement to their job income. But instead he's attacking the misfortune of the little guy who works full time in the private sector (likely underemployed and under paid) and then basically accuses them of trying to game the system for free EI.

Another attack by the govt on the real victims of those who support their lavish empire.

Again, I'm still waiting for these civil servants to be laid off. Cut stats can, NRC, RCMP, ag can, and the list goes on. just axe them all and give them back their remaining pensions and let them go open a business and fail due to high regulations and taxes and let them go out and compete with immigrants and show the civil servants how its really like to live in Canada. Good luck keeping a job for more than 2 years. Then the govt will call them 'frequent users' of EI like it's the employees fault the companies they work for keep failing.
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Re: Canada's Opposition are Enemies of Canada

Postby Angleland » 06/ 01/ 12 1:45 pm

Crush wrote:
Angleland wrote:If the budget itself had been some sort of masterpiece of cutting both spending and taxes, I might have been tempted to think of half loaves and watered wine with respect to the other items.

The budget however, was a dud. Getting rid of the penny. Big Whoop as Rush would say.

Enemy of Canada?

I recall being called that back in 1992 when I and others campaigned against the Charlaton Accord. I got nasty letters from family members and even Mulroney, the Prime Minister of Quebec who left out the word 'Labrador' from the name of Newfoundland and Labrador whenever he spoke in French to his true country of Quebec, called those of us upposed to Charlaton 'Enemies of Canada'.

Now we have someone else using the same phrase. Oh well.


I'm still waiting to see civil servants laid off as they seem to be hell bent on attacking victims in the private sector. They call them 'frequent users' of EI. Does he think that people like getting laid off and being out of work? Does he think this is some sort of game where we work full time for 8 months just so we can collect EI? The only frequent users are seasonal workers and substitute teachers who go on the dole regularly each year as a supplement to their job income. But instead he's attacking the misfortune of the little guy who works full time in the private sector (likely underemployed and under paid) and then basically accuses them of trying to game the system for free EI.

Another attack by the govt on the real victims of those who support their lavish empire.

Again, I'm still waiting for these civil servants to be laid off. Cut stats can, NRC, RCMP, ag can, and the list goes on. just axe them all and give them back their remaining pensions and let them go open a business and fail due to high regulations and taxes and let them go out and compete with immigrants and show the civil servants how its really like to live in Canada. Good luck keeping a job for more than 2 years. Then the govt will call them 'frequent users' of EI like it's the employees fault the companies they work for keep failing.


I agree. I keep hearing about the great chess player. This garbage isn't even checkers.

As for Flagedy, he's the genius who said we had to bear the one billion bucks cost of G20 in order to be a world class country or something.
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Re: Canada's Opposition are Enemies of Canada

Postby RedDog » 06/ 01/ 12 3:19 pm

Thomas Mulcair is an enemy of Alberta. He is vile and without repent, choosing to divide a nation for political points at home trying to formulate a new NEP.

Btw - 55 years this week Quebec has been a net receiver of welfare transfer extortions. You go Tommy Commie. Keep up the good work for the home team. You go. I don't care where, just go.
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Re: Canada's Opposition are Enemies of Canada

Postby Peter O'Donnell » 06/ 01/ 12 5:51 pm

You may be right about the Opposition, but at the same time, the government is not acting in the interests of Canada by rushing this mixture of good and bad legislation through the House and creating powers and precedents that seem dangerous to personal liberty and national sovereignty.

So perhaps it is fair to say that the entire parliament are enemies of the Canadian people. I don't know too many conservatives (besides Hodgson) who really think this government is doing a very good job representing conservative values. I think people are so fixated on the NDP menace that they are, in some cases, just numb to the questions raised by Harper's conduct and approach to legislation. Maybe that is a necessary evil but it doesn't make Harper's approach right, just expedient.
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Re: Canada's Opposition are Enemies of Canada

Postby The Devil's Advocate » 06/ 01/ 12 6:25 pm

If someone insists on throwing down the "But we've got to stop the NDP" trump card when it's a question of legislation they like, they lose the option of complaining about when others do the same in cases of legislation they hate. No government is flawless, far from it, and that doesn't change merely because of the quality or composition of the groups of people tasked to oppose them. Granting carte-blanche to a government as a response to fear of the alternative is one of the fastest roads to dictatorship.
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Re: Canada's Opposition are Enemies of Canada

Postby Hodgson » 06/ 01/ 12 6:36 pm

Yeah, cause a dictatorship could happen if we pass the budget.....
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Re: Canada's Opposition are Enemies of Canada

Postby LAR » 06/ 01/ 12 6:38 pm

Hodgson's opposition are enemies of Hodgson
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Re: Canada's Opposition are Enemies of Canada

Postby The Devil's Advocate » 06/ 01/ 12 6:49 pm

Hodgson wrote:Yeah, cause a dictatorship could happen if we pass the budget.....


No, of course not, writing that would be silly. What wouldn't be silly is writing that a dictatorship could happen if too many people offer the party in power blind loyality in everything they do and justifying it by turning Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition in to boogiemen. In other words, basically what you're doing now.
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Re: Canada's Opposition are Enemies of Canada

Postby Dogpatch » 06/ 01/ 12 7:21 pm

So what is exactly "bad" about C-38?

EI? It needed reform. And yes, if you stick with a job that will lay you off every six or eight months (every year), then you are a believer in "I'm entitled to my entitlements". (See May, Elizabeth)

Old Age Security? For starters, it's not a 'pension". Secondly, look at Germany and Scandinavia and what they've done with it.

Environment? Give me a break - these parasites of green are money grabbers and want to change everything to their way of doing business.

Health care? Just take a peek back at Chretien and Martin's years in power. Now that was draconian.

Free trade? hah - the liberals wouldn't do anything different

Budget cuts? See Chretien and Martin above.

etc.
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Re: Canada's Opposition are Enemies of Canada

Postby Peter O'Donnell » 06/ 01/ 12 7:28 pm

Some would say that the Cabinet is already more or less ruling by decree and ignoring Parliament, even their own caucus have been whipped beyond recognition. This is deeply troubling to all who value the strengths of our system, we don't want or need an American-style executive here, without even the checks and balances of the differently formulated American system. (the left will mention Hitler and to me that's an inept comparison, but long before we get into that territory we need to get this situation fixed, because what's currently happening is basically unconstitutional in the extreme, but this is being obscured for some people by partisan concerns).

What goes along with this is the rather odious practice of sterile "talking points" as opposed to reasoned, informed discussion. This encourages various mediocrities and one-note trumpet players to perform as though what they were saying had anything more than a cynical, expedient foundation. Of course it is a trend of all modern politics, but some can recall a time when there was a higher level of discourse in our political life.
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Re: Canada's Opposition are Enemies of Canada

Postby Dogpatch » 06/ 01/ 12 7:35 pm

Some would say that the Cabinet is already more or less ruling by decree and ignoring Parliament, even their own caucus have been whipped beyond recognition.

Sad and very true
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Re: Canada's Opposition are Enemies of Canada

Postby Crush » 06/ 01/ 12 8:04 pm

Peter O'Donnell wrote:So perhaps it is fair to say that the entire parliament are enemies of the Canadian people.


YES IT IS TIME TO WAKE UP!

AMERICANS ARE IN THE SAME BOAT. VICTIMS OF THE SYSTEM NEED TO COME TOGETHER AND ORGANIZE. AMERICANS WILL TAKE THE LEAD. SENTIMENT IS BOILING OVER IN THE US VERY RECENTLY. HERE IS A MAINSTREAM GUY SAYING SOME 'STRONG WORDS' ON HIS PODCAST. THE TIME TO PANIC COULD COME SOON. BE VIGILANT AND PREPARED:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzSq1iY0AZ4&t=9m





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