The government’s selective defence of freedom

[Connie Fournier]

The government’s selective defence of freedom

By Dan Gardner, The Ottawa Citizen April 29, 2012
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It was a genuinely shocking moment. In effect, the government engaged the debate it said it didn’t want to discuss, but rather than siding with Woodworth and the social conservatives who want abortion restricted, it came out swinging for the other side....

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http://www.ottawacitizen.com/opinion/co ... story.html

[Connie Fournier]

Harper is a thug. He could have prevented this Motion from coming to the floor, but he chose, instead, to make an example out of Woodworth by publicly humiliating him. Woodworth will probably find a horse head in his bed when he gets home tonight.

By the way, it doesn't matter what you think of Stephen Woodworth's political views, he is the most courageous man I have seen in the House of Commons in my lifetime. I hope that the other small-c conservative MPs that have been flying below the radar will look at how Stephen Woodworth laid his career on the line for his principles and that they will examine their own actions (or lack of action) and be inspired to stand up and be counted.

[Connie Fournier]

Conservative anti-abortion debate ends in shock, awe, giggles
By Heather Mallick
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As it turned out, Woodworth, poor man, was publicly battered and fried by Conservative whip Gordon O’Connor, who, as Kady O’Malley of the CBC wrote, gave the “most stridently pro-choice speech of the debate.” ...
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http://www.thestar.com/opinion/editoria ... we-giggles

[Julian]

Harper is a thug.

Quite so, and a devious b*stard to boot. I don't trust any more than I trusted King Pierre. Harper is answering to people outside of Canada. That is treason in my books.

[Faramir]

The government’s selective defence of freedom

By Dan Gardner, The Ottawa Citizen April 29, 2012
...
It was a genuinely shocking moment. In effect, the government engaged the debate it said it didn’t want to discuss, but rather than siding with Woodworth and the social conservatives who want abortion restricted, it came out swinging for the other side....

[read full article at link below]


http://www.ottawacitizen.com/opinion/co ... story.html

Firstly, O'Connor is an ass. What riding does he belong to? We should mount a campaign to have him defeated.

Secondly, not only is he an ass, he has Mill backwards. Somehow regulating the PERSONAL lives of others when it comes to drug use or prostitution is fine. But when it actually comes to harming an unborn child, how dare you!

But Connie, don't you know, according to many PC voters in the AB election, that you are a "bozo" for thinking an unborn baby is anyting more than a fetus? As you know, having seen our baby alive and then dead on an ultrasound, even at 8 weeks, whenever I hear such an utterance, my head is ready to explode. I know letting emotions come into a debate is a bad idea, but in this case...

[Faramir]

Harper is a thug. He could have prevented this Motion from coming to the floor, but he chose, instead, to make an example out of Woodworth by publicly humiliating him. Woodworth will probably find a horse head in his bed when he gets home tonight.

By the way, it doesn't matter what you think of Stephen Woodworth's political views, he is the most courageous man I have seen in the House of Commons in my lifetime. I hope that the other small-c conservative MPs that have been flying below the radar will look at how Stephen Woodworth laid his career on the line for his principles and that they will examine their own actions (or lack of action) and be inspired to stand up and be counted.

Sadly the other social conservatives (Stockwell Day) sold out long ago...

[Faramir]

Harper is a thug.

Quite so, and a devious b*stard to boot. I don't trust any more than I trusted King Pierre. Harper is answering to people outside of Canada. That is treason in my books.

It sort of feels like April 2012 is the month of the social conservative. With old comments drug up from social conservative candidates in the Alberta election to this - the hate is on against social conservatism. We are told to, to be plain and frank even on a family site, told to "Shut the f-word up".

I am sick and tired as the next guy of big spending social conservatives, so I sort of avoided social conservative threads in bias of fiscal issues, but this has been going on for a long time. To give you some perspective how old the social conservative backstabbing goes, I will tell you a story about a man I respect because of his position on free speech, but was part of the so con bashing. Way way back a friend of mine tried to prevent Dr Keith Martin from winning the Reform nomination for Esq-JDF riding. Keith threatened a lawsuit and that was enough to shut said friend of mine up. Apparently pro-abortion positions were ignored even that far back for political expediencey.

[Eddy]

Well, things are becoming clearer. Didn't the CPC base vote for the platform "no debate on abortion" that Mr Harper is defending? Didn't Mr Harper force a delay of the convention in 2008 just so this question wouldn't come up, until he showed he could win, and then the membership thought "okay, let's love abortion"?
The NDP told me in my youth I wasn't wanted. The Liberals told me I'm not a real Canadian. And now the CPC tells me I'm shocking. Fine.
It's one thing for Mr Harper to say what he has always said all along. It's another thing for Mr O'Connor to go on the warpath. Jason Kenney is now officially a loser.

[Faramir]

Well, things are becoming clearer. Didn't the CPC base vote for the platform "no debate on abortion" that Mr Harper is defending? Didn't Mr Harper force a delay of the convention in 2008 just so this question wouldn't come up, until he showed he could win, and then the membership thought "okay, let's love abortion"?
The NDP told me in my youth I wasn't wanted. The Liberals told me I'm not a real Canadian. And now the CPC tells me I'm shocking. Fine.
It's one thing for Mr Harper to say what he has always said all along. It's another thing for Mr O'Connor to go on the warpath. Jason Kenney is now officially a loser.

I would love for Sun News to pick this up. Would greatly enjoy Coren smashing in Harper's face (metaphorically of course) over this one.

[Connie Fournier]

I will be very interested to see if Sun TV picks this up. If anyone over there does, I think the most likely one would be Michael Coren.

[Eddy]

Where I grew up politics was tribal. I grew up with not quite a hatred but at least a clear dislike of the PCs. As I grew older I overcame that on principles. As the old saying goes, "when I was 17 I was disgusted at how ignorant my father was. 10 years later I'm amazed at how smart he's become." What we saw this week is what the membership voted for at the last convention. Mr Harper is a thug, and he leads a band of thugs. Bah and feh.

[Charles J. White]

Every moderator and member of Free Dominion agrees that Harper behaves like a thug

[styky]

Every moderator and member of Free Dominion agrees that Harper behaves like a thug

Whether I agree or not is immaterial but don't ever speak for me. That's exactly what what you hate about Harper

[Charles J. White]

Every moderator and member of Free Dominion agrees that Harper behaves like a thug

Whether I agree or not is immaterial but don't ever speak for me. That's exactly what what you hate about Harper

I’m not behaving like a thug, I was simply pointing out that Harper was wrong, and the Free Dominion community feels Harper is wrong, you seem a little sensitive about this relax a little…

[styky]

Every moderator and member of Free Dominion agrees that Harper behaves like a thug

Whether I agree or not is immaterial but don't ever speak for me. That's exactly what what you hate about Harper

I’m not behaving like a thug, I was simply pointing out that Harper was wrong, and the Free Dominion community feels Harper is wrong, you seem a little sensitive about this relax a little…

Not likely. I speak for myself and no one asked me if there was a consensus so don't even go there.