Scandal engulfs the Wildrose Party

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Postby Ipberg2 » 08/ 27/ 07 9:41 am

Ralph Klein did not groom a successor but expected Jim Dinning would simply take over. The PCs would be in better shape if either Morton or him were leader today. Stelmach has proven to have no more leadership mettle and connection to the people of Alberta than his opponent Kevin Taft who leads the Liberal Party. And Stelmach's policies so far have been to increase government spending, kick oilsand in the faces of other premiers and propose banning cellphones while driving.
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Postby RedDog » 08/ 27/ 07 9:50 am

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RedDog wrote:First Lady couldn't be more accurate here. This represents a grave violation of trust and integrity. Those headed for the exits taking private property with them as though it were theirs to take for their own personal use or to peddle off to others - while gaining favour for themselves in the process no doubt - is vile.

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Membership in any political party is usually of a short duration. When the political party becomes a personality cult like the religion of its leader, it is even shorter.


I don't hold Ted Morton's Catholisim against him. He was likely railroaded into it as a child like most were. In the end, I saw zero reference to his personal faith at a half dozen campaign receptions, just as I could say of a great many other politicians in Alberta.

Besides, the topic is about theft and violation of trusted access to private information. Had I actually been a member of the AA I would be royally ticked to suddenly hear from a surprise group who know my address, my cell number and my credit card number. These clowns are dead in the water with this one act - proving they just don't get it.
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Postby Ipberg2 » 08/ 27/ 07 10:07 am

I had naturally assumed Ted Morton was an evangelical Protestant. I guess he actually doesn't talk about his faith as much as the left-wing asserts he does! Ted was my first choice on BOTH ballots in the PC leadership race. And I took care to pay for my PC membership, in order to participate in the vote, with a cheque rather than credit card #.
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Postby Yoda » 08/ 27/ 07 10:13 am

RedDog wrote:
Yoda wrote:
RedDog wrote:First Lady couldn't be more accurate here. This represents a grave violation of trust and integrity. Those headed for the exits taking private property with them as though it were theirs to take for their own personal use or to peddle off to others - while gaining favour for themselves in the process no doubt - is vile.

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Membership in any political party is usually of a short duration. When the political party becomes a personality cult like the religion of its leader, it is even shorter.


I don't hold Ted Morton's Catholisim against him. He was likely railroaded into it as a child like most were. In the end, I saw zero reference to his personal faith at a half dozen campaign receptions, just as I could say of a great many other politicians in Alberta.

Besides, the topic is about theft and violation of trusted access to private information. Had I actually been a member of the AA I would be royally ticked to suddenly hear from a surprise group who know my address, my cell number and my credit card number. These clowns are dead in the water with this one act - proving they just don't get it.


Who was talking about Ted Morton?
The person in question is PH.

The reason Randy got back in the picture is PH can't run anything.

The vitrol being shown by the chosen left in the AA demenstrates the cult that exists in the AA.
"Plunderers of the world, when nothing remains of the lands to which they have laid waste by indiscriminate thievery, they search out across the seas. The wealth of another excites their greed, and its poverty their lust of power. Nothing from the rising to the setting of the sun can satiate them. They alone are as compelled to attack the poor as they are the wealthy. Robbery, rape, and slaughter they falsely call empire; and where they create a desolate waste, they call it peace."
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Postby RedDog » 08/ 27/ 07 10:56 am

I know you weren't referring to Morton. I was fishig for information and you provided it. Thanks. :D

No further comment on the violation of trust and theft of private property?
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Postby Ipberg2 » 08/ 27/ 07 10:59 am

Who is talking about the Alberta Alliance and Wild Rose Party?

Other than people on FD, not a soul.
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Postby The Devil's Advocate » 08/ 27/ 07 11:40 am

Ipberg2 wrote:Who is talking about the Alberta Alliance and Wild Rose Party?

Other than people on FD, not a soul.


They get a fair bit of coverage over at projectalberta.
I have a bias against making ridiculous comparisons.
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Postby First Lady » 08/ 27/ 07 12:24 pm

Yoda wrote:
RedDog wrote: I don't hold Ted Morton's Catholisim against him. He was likely railroaded into it as a child like most were. In the end, I saw zero reference to his personal faith at a half dozen campaign receptions, just as I could say of a great many other politicians in Alberta.

Besides, the topic is about theft and violation of trusted access to private information. Had I actually been a member of the AA I would be royally ticked to suddenly hear from a surprise group who know my address, my cell number and my credit card number. These clowns are dead in the water with this one act - proving they just don't get it.


Who was talking about Ted Morton?
The person in question is PH.


Ah... so it is about Mormonism. That explains a lot right there... you are one of those people who read Wikipedia and actually believe it.... :lol:

Do you have any clue what percentage of our members are Mormon?
What about the provincial board?
Do you know my religion? How about C.Morgan's?.... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Beyond that what does it matter? This issue is one of ethics and intregrity; last time I checked, one does not need to be religious to possess those qualities.

The reason Randy got back in the picture is PH can't run anything.

You do realize Randy is the President, not Leader?
Randy stepped up to the plate when Mr. Murdoch was unable to stay on as president....

The vitrol being shown by the chosen left in the AA demenstrates the cult that exists in the AA.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

You are hilarious.... why didn't you come out to the BBQ? Would have been fun to meet you ... again.
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Postby First Lady » 08/ 27/ 07 12:29 pm

RedDog wrote: Besides, the topic is about theft and violation of trusted access to private information. Had I actually been a member of the AA I would be royally ticked to suddenly hear from a surprise group who know my address, my cell number and my credit card number. These clowns are dead in the water with this one act - proving they just don't get it.


Just to clarify...

To date, we have no reason to believe any confidential financial information has been shared. ie: credit card numbers.

Membership lists that would have been distributed for Party purposes, would include; name, address, contact numbers and of course membership #.
But NOT any financial information.
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Postby RedDog » 08/ 27/ 07 12:33 pm

First Lady wrote:
RedDog wrote: Besides, the topic is about theft and violation of trusted access to private information. Had I actually been a member of the AA I would be royally ticked to suddenly hear from a surprise group who know my address, my cell number and my credit card number. These clowns are dead in the water with this one act - proving they just don't get it.


Just to clarify...

To date, we have no reason to believe any confidential financial information has been shared. ie: credit card numbers.

Membership lists that would have been distributed for Party purposes, would include; name, address, contact numbers and of course membership #.
But NOT any financial information.


Good to know indeed. In this particular case it doesn't effect me either way but the principle is the same, and if the AA DID maintain that information in the same member database it would now apparently be out there God knows where because a handful of people wanted to take the ball (and information which didn't belong to them) and go home.
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Postby Ipberg2 » 08/ 27/ 07 1:30 pm

The Devil's Advocate wrote:
Ipberg2 wrote:Who is talking about the Alberta Alliance and Wild Rose Party?

Other than people on FD, not a soul.


They get a fair bit of coverage over at projectalberta.


Like a bunch of scientists studying red ants fighting black ants through a microscope.
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Postby The Devil's Advocate » 08/ 27/ 07 1:32 pm

First Lady wrote:
Yoda wrote:
RedDog wrote: I don't hold Ted Morton's Catholisim against him. He was likely railroaded into it as a child like most were. In the end, I saw zero reference to his personal faith at a half dozen campaign receptions, just as I could say of a great many other politicians in Alberta.

Besides, the topic is about theft and violation of trusted access to private information. Had I actually been a member of the AA I would be royally ticked to suddenly hear from a surprise group who know my address, my cell number and my credit card number. These clowns are dead in the water with this one act - proving they just don't get it.


Who was talking about Ted Morton?
The person in question is PH.


Ah... so it is about Mormonism. That explains a lot right there... you are one of those people who read Wikipedia and actually believe it.... :lol:

Do you have any clue what percentage of our members are Mormon?
What about the provincial board?
Do you know my religion? How about C.Morgan's?.... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Beyond that what does it matter? This issue is one of ethics and intregrity; last time I checked, one does not need to be religious to possess those qualities.

The reason Randy got back in the picture is PH can't run anything.

You do realize Randy is the President, not Leader?
Randy stepped up to the plate when Mr. Murdoch was unable to stay on as president....

The vitrol being shown by the chosen left in the AA demenstrates the cult that exists in the AA.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

You are hilarious.... why didn't you come out to the BBQ? Would have been fun to meet you ... again.


I'm lost now, when did mormonism come into the discussion?
I have a bias against making ridiculous comparisons.
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Postby RedDog » 08/ 27/ 07 1:33 pm

I'm lost now, when did mormonism come into the discussion?


Yoda brought it in through the back door but was afraid to spell it out as such.
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Postby The Devil's Advocate » 08/ 27/ 07 1:38 pm

RedDog wrote:
I'm lost now, when did mormonism come into the discussion?


Yoda brought it in through the back door but was afraid to spell it out as such.


All right, now for the bid question: why is it relevent at all? I'm honestly asking, I'm not aware of the connection.
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Postby RedDog » 08/ 27/ 07 1:40 pm

The Devil's Advocate wrote:
RedDog wrote:
I'm lost now, when did mormonism come into the discussion?


Yoda brought it in through the back door but was afraid to spell it out as such.


All right, now for the bid question: why is it relevent at all? I'm honestly asking, I'm not aware of the connection.


Nor was I. I'd like to know myself and what does it have to do with anything anyway?
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