Wildrose Alliance Leadership Race Updates

[BO Supporter]

Is there any poll saying whether Dyrholm or Smith would be favored by the membership?

What about... Alberta sovereignty? Would either one do a better job for Alberta sovereigntists than Hutton does?

Just a question what does BO stand for. Two possibilities come to mind is Barack Obama or Body Odor.

Wildrose Alliance does not have a pro sovereignty position.

Bloc Ontario.

Ohhhh pardon me, my error. Do we need more French Bloc Parties in Canada??

The Bloc Ontario was not created to cater to a francophone audience. Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty has complained about the lack of a Bloc Ontario that would defend his province's interests federally. The leader of this party said he would not lead this party into either the next federal general election or his province's general election in 2011. (Since the BO has a federal branch and a provincial branch; the leader goes by the username nickjbor here) Ontarian media seemed to throw the codename "Bloc Ontario" whenever the province was at odds with the Feds.

I'm the chief organizer of this party - at least for the federal branch. But I intend to resign from this position whenever the leadership convention will be called. However, it will be obvious that the provincial branch will have to operate under another name if the next leader is to lead the provincial branch into the 2011 provincial election because of Ontario's ballot access law.

Back to the WA. If the WA actually did take away some of the more... conservative voters off the PC, maybe you'd break a 40-year PC dynasty - which became more and more centrist in the last 15 years.

If the gambit works, the WA may wrest control from the PC and actually beat the Libs to Official Opposition - or even lead the province instead of the PC.

[Cod Father]

Alberta sovereignty does not need to mean Alberta Separatism. There is the Separation Party of Alberta for that: http://www.separationalberta.com/

Alberta sovereignty can mean supporting the Harper/Morton Firewall letter. It can mean standing up to Ottawa for Alberta's fair share from equalization. It can mean supporting the policy resolutions adopted by the Canadian Centre for Freedom and Democracy's Calgary Congress, which Danielle Smith was MC of.

Alberta sovereignty can mean exercising provincial powers to the full extent as provided by the constitution, federal acts in provincial jurisdictions be damned! It could me creating a provincial constitution.

So now I ask...what is the Wild Rose Alliance Party's position and its candidates's position on Alberta sovereignty?!

[HSMom]

The Bloc Ontario was not created to cater to a francophone audience.

Ohhh then why didn't they spell it block instead of bloc??

[HSMom]

Alberta sovereignty does not need to mean Alberta Separatism. There is the Separation Party of Alberta for that: http://www.separationalberta.com/

Alberta sovereignty can mean supporting the Harper/Morton Firewall letter. It can mean standing up to Ottawa for Alberta's fair share from equalization. It can mean supporting the policy resolutions adopted by the Canadian Centre for Freedom and Democracy's Calgary Congress, which Danielle Smith was MC of.

Alberta sovereignty can mean exercising provincial powers to the full extent as provided by the constitution, federal acts in provincial jurisdictions be damned! It could me creating a provincial constitution.

So now I ask...what is the Wild Rose Alliance Party's position and its candidates's position on Alberta sovereignty?!

Have you checked the party policies?? I am sure the position on this issue is in their.

[BO Supporter]

The Bloc Ontario was not created to cater to a francophone audience.

Ohhh then why didn't they spell it block instead of bloc??

The majority of potential BO supporters

Note that I am the chief organizer for the federal branch only because I'm not in Ontario provincial electoral lists (I'm really on Quebecer provincial electoral lists and, as such, I cannot organize the provincial branch of a party that aims to represent the interests of a province I cannot vote in)

I'm really only doing this for my grand-uncle any my grand-aunt, both of which are on Ontario voter lists.

[The Devil's Advocate]

The Bloc Ontario was not created to cater to a francophone audience.

Ohhh then why didn't they spell it block instead of bloc??

When the word refers to a group, that's how it is spelled, i.e. trading bloc (NAFTA, etc), voting bloc, or the old "Soviet bloc" countries.

[HSMom]

The Bloc Ontario was not created to cater to a francophone audience.

Ohhh then why didn't they spell it block instead of bloc??

When the word refers to a group, that's how it is spelled, i.e. trading bloc (NAFTA, etc), voting bloc, or the old "Soviet bloc" countries.

Ohhh ooops I always thought Bloc was the French spelling.

[The Devil's Advocate]

The Bloc Ontario was not created to cater to a francophone audience.

Ohhh then why didn't they spell it block instead of bloc??

When the word refers to a group, that's how it is spelled, i.e. trading bloc (NAFTA, etc), voting bloc, or the old "Soviet bloc" countries.

Ohhh ooops I always thought Bloc was the French spelling.

Nope. Note than the provincial equivalent is the PQ, the Parti Quebecois. The french word for party (as in political party) is, as boring as it may sound, parti.

[travischase]

Why would you want a party with the abbreviation BO? Seriously that name stinks.

[BO Supporter]

Why would you want a party with the abbreviation BO? Seriously that name stinks.

The question is, why do Ontarion media (be it newspapers, blogs or anything in the like) keep tossing around the Bloc Ontario name whenever Queen's Park is at odds with Ottawa, even if the Bloc Ontario is, in most cases, a desire of Queen's Park?

Alberta sovereignty does not need to mean Alberta Separatism. There is the Separation Party of Alberta for that: http://www.separationalberta.com/

Hutton, if Bruce Hutton is still the leader of this party, is a hardcore sovereigntist. That is, if you take Quebecer definitions of sovereigntism and autonomism. Here they are:

- Sovereigntism: an ideology that advocates the outright separation of a province, or a group of provinces, from a country
- Autonomism: an ideology that advocates giving greater powers to provincial governments without resorting to outright separation

As I see it, while the WA is not sovereigntist (by Quebecer definitions) it could be autonomist. How the WA would intend to deal with Ottawa if brought to power?