Petition to end official bilingualism

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Postby Carmel Divine » 04/ 15/ 06 7:21 am

pinetree wrote:
Carmel Divine wrote:Sacrifice English language rights in Québec??....BTW...there are MORE Anglophones in Québec than Francophones in Onrtario.....WE EXIST...

I'm not giving up my rights so those who sit 2 or 3 time zone away can get the French off of their corn flakes.....



What rights? That's the whole point. Bill 101 doesn't GIVE you any rights. English as the official language and French available where numbers warrant would give you everything you need.


Times have changed in Québec....I have read that for the most part, Anglos who live here now have "made peace" with Bill 101...it is not an issue...

It's only an issue for those who left in the '70s....they hang on to it like a "dog on a bone"

My son will soon be graduating from university and will be working in Montreal....he has both langauges...

We have English schools here....REAL radio and TV stations...newspapers...
(not only local cable channels and community "rags")

No sacrifices allowed here..go buy a chocolate Easter bunny and chop it up if you folks have to "offer something"

Vive le Québec! :hug:
Vive le Québec and Canada....

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Postby C_ONT » 04/ 15/ 06 12:31 pm

Sheila Copps did her best Librano job by bribing and infiltrating Alliance Quebec, the Anglo language rights group. She chopped a huge chunk of the Heritage funding from the AQ and diverted it to the pretenders who organized an internal “coup d”Etat".

Now, the “new AQ” is supposedly claiming Anglos are content and embraced the infamous Bill 101 that relegates them to the second class citizens. The Anglo are supposedly happy with their schools closing, with their inability to continue working in supposedly ENGLISH hospitals without passing a written French test 100% spelling mistakes free, with being unable to get a job in Quebec government if you are not “culturally” French (discrimination based on ethnic origin), etc.

What a paradise Quebec has become – a true “just” society Trudope envisioned.

The scary thing is Francos want to impose that "model" on the rest of Canada.
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Postby LanguageFairness » 04/ 20/ 06 5:08 pm

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Re: Petition to end official bilingualism

Postby balanced20 » 05/ 25/ 06 8:46 am

Dr.Dusseldorf wrote:The injustice of official bilingualism is that it is being applied to
discriminate against anglophones outside Quebec, while Quebec itself
remains militantly unilingual. Official bilingualism is being used
and abused by francophones as a forced entry into positions of power
and influence across Canada.


The petition to end official bilingualism is clearly meant to reach
as many people as possible in Canada and I hope
that those who get this link will participate. Read it through first
and if you agree with the message they are sending out, add your name
to the list and pass it on to all your friends and relatives. Ask
them to help start a nationwide protest against this policy that is
discriminatory and grossly unfair to the majority of Canadians.
It has so far collected over 3500 online signatures:

:hurray: :hurray: :hurray:


to read the petition click:

http://www.PetitionOnline.com/ottawa/petition.html

also see their site at: www.languagefairness.ca


Quebec Unilingual??? That is pure propaganda, i don't know a lot of people who is not speaking more english than english speaking french... We are forced to learn english, we cannot even get a job (outside school jobs) without succeeding our english courses, even in advanced studiying! This is total Bull Sh*t...Maybe not, but very very close minded...
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Postby VIP » 05/ 26/ 06 2:05 am

Carmel aka "Balanced" wrote:
Quebec Unilingual??? That is pure propaganda, i don't know a lot of people who is not speaking more english than english speaking french... We are forced to learn english, we cannot even get a job (outside school jobs) without succeeding our english courses, even in advanced studiying.

Canada bilingual??? That is a pure propaganda. Canada has two official langauges, but that does not make her bilingual by any stretch of imagination. Only in "Balanced Carmel's" wet dreams. The only officially bilingual province in Canada is New Brunswick and Quebec is officially unilingual French.

We are forced to learn French in places where one never hears anybody speak it. Ever! At the same time, we cannot get jobs in our own government in our own English provinces and English towns, because we do not speak French. It's the country of absurd!

Borassa was right: Canada is not a real country, it's a joke.
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Postby balanced20 » 05/ 26/ 06 9:47 am

VIP wrote:Carmel aka "Balanced" wrote:
Quebec Unilingual??? That is pure propaganda, i don't know a lot of people who is not speaking more english than english speaking french... We are forced to learn english, we cannot even get a job (outside school jobs) without succeeding our english courses, even in advanced studiying.

Canada bilingual??? That is a pure propaganda. Canada has two official langauges, but that does not make her bilingual by any stretch of imagination. Only in "Balanced Carmel's" wet dreams. The only officially bilingual province in Canada is New Brunswick and Quebec is officially unilingual French.

We are forced to learn French in places where one never hears anybody speak it. Ever! At the same time, we cannot get jobs in our own government in our own English provinces and English towns, because we do not speak French. It's the country of absurd!

Borassa was right: Canada is not a real country, it's a joke.


So if learning french for you is so absurb what do you propose? No more french at all in quebec? Or no laws to regulate the languages nowhere?
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Postby EdS » 05/ 26/ 06 9:56 am

If I still lived in Québec, I would have gone back and taken an intensive conversational French course, to bring up my French to <u><b>fully fluent</u></b> level. I still have great contacts in the Francophone community, and enjoy working with them. If you're going to live in Québec, you better speak French, and fluently.

By now, I really don't know anyone who is opposed to speaking French, except the white trash in Verdun, "The Point", and maybe pockets in the West Island. Everyone Anglo I know speaks French, and interfaces every day with the Francophones. The hide-bound bigots who used to defiantly refuse to speak French are all gone by now.

Have Anglos "made peace" with Loi 101? Probably not. It's still a sore point, as is Loi 187. We just ignore it and move on. What else can you do? Move out, like I did.
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Postby VIP » 05/ 27/ 06 5:20 pm

So if learning french for you is so absurb what do you propose? No more french at all in quebec? Or no laws to regulate the languages nowhere?

Carmel, although you know some English, you are not fully functional in it. That's the sad consequences of Bill 101.
I talk about Canada, you interpret it about Quebec.

Learning French is okay with me, unless it becomes a condition for applying for or keeping a job in English Canada where 96% of the population are anglophones. Don't you think it's absurd?

You, in Quebec, thought it's absurd that Anglos dominate your job market and political power. You fought and won. Why do you think it's wrong for us, Anglos, to protect our turf?

Let's make a peace: you keep your French language and culture in Quebec and we keep our English language and culture in English Canada. Deal?
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Postby butterflylow » 08/ 16/ 06 11:31 am

VIP wrote:
So if learning french for you is so absurb what do you propose? No more french at all in quebec? Or no laws to regulate the languages nowhere?

Carmel, although you know some English, you are not fully functional in it. That's the sad consequences of Bill 101.
I talk about Canada, you interpret it about Quebec.

Learning French is okay with me, unless it becomes a condition for applying for or keeping a job in English Canada where 96% of the population are anglophones. Don't you think it's absurd?

You, in Quebec, thought it's absurd that Anglos dominate your job market and political power. You fought and won. Why do you think it's wrong for us, Anglos, to protect our turf?

Let's make a peace: you keep your French language and culture in Quebec and we keep our English language and culture in English Canada. Deal?
:hurray:

It doesn't work that way. French Canadians learn English easily because their province is a tiny island in a giant sea of English. They are bombarded by English from all sides and at every turn. The best movies, music, and media are in English, and most of their relatives already speak English. French Canadian children learn English easily, because they use what they learn, of necessity.
It is the complete opposite for English kids learning French outside Quebec. They never hear it, they never use it, and almost noone that they know uses it. So even if they spend years and untold money learning French, they have great difficulty learning it, do not use what they learn, and do not retain it
Official bilingualism means that these bilingual Quebec kids will be considered morally and intellectually superior when applying for a job, and as a result English people are being frozen out of influential and highly paying positions throughout the public and private sector.
It has got to end.

http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/ ... cgi?ottawa

Anyone looking for work in Ottawa who does not speak french
knows how ridiculous the hiring prospects re: french requirements are.

Virtually all of the french people in Ontario and Ottawa can
and do speak English every day, yet the English speaking people are being forced to learn a language that is neither used nor in particular demand.
Quebec is officially unilingual french and have driven hundreds of thousands of English from their province, Quebec-born prime ministers from Trudeau to Mulroney to Chretien, and a tiny elite of bilingual liberals have spent the past thirty years forcing official bilingualism on the rest of Canada.

Immigrants who know both their native language and English should not be forced to learn French in order to work. It is unnecessary, wasteful, expensive, and discriminatory. It is time to stand up for your rights as an employee and a tax payer.

Sign the petition to end official bilingualism.
http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/ ... cgi?ottawa

names and emails of signatories are kept confidential. They will not be provided to the government. The signature total is all that will be provided, in the interest of protecting your privacy.

This petition is hosted by an independent petition-hosting service that hosts petitions on any topics from around the world. The signatures to these petitions are verified , and recognized as authentic and legitimate and well worth the time to participate. By using an independent petition host, it is known our organization did not simply create a false and favorable signature count. This also means that it is important that people who support this take the time to sign it. Do not
simply dismiss this as something that will 'not be taken seriously' by anyone .
A huge response to this cannot be ignored by anyone, be they private citizens or government officials, and the more momentum created, the more others are emboldened to come forward with similar views.
Conversely, a weak response to this will be taken as tacit permission for the establishment to continue violating your rights and relegating you to second-class status for not knowing French, a useless and obsolete language.

Sign the petition now. Your information is kept confidential.
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Postby doctorftf » 08/ 16/ 06 12:40 pm

Carmel Divine wrote:
pinetree wrote:
Carmel Divine wrote:Sacrifice English language rights in Québec??....BTW...there are MORE Anglophones in Québec than Francophones in Onrtario.....WE EXIST...

I'm not giving up my rights so those who sit 2 or 3 time zone away can get the French off of their corn flakes.....



What rights? That's the whole point. Bill 101 doesn't GIVE you any rights. English as the official language and French available where numbers warrant would give you everything you need.


Times have changed in Québec....I have read that for the most part, Anglos who live here now have "made peace" with Bill 101...it is not an issue...

It's only an issue for those who left in the '70s....they hang on to it like a "dog on a bone"

My son will soon be graduating from university and will be working in Montreal....he has both langauges...

We have English schools here....REAL radio and TV stations...newspapers...
(not only local cable channels and community "rags")

No sacrifices allowed here..go buy a chocolate Easter bunny and chop it up if you folks have to "offer something"

Vive le Québec! :hug:
Carmel,your an idiot if you think the English speaking population are ok with Bill 101,rights that were protected since 1867,under the BNA Act.We want our rights back,and until Bill 101 is repealed we will boycott the province.We will also boycott any company with a head office in Quebec (Bell)...In 1982 a French PM from Quebec (An anti-English bigot) Trudeau decided to remove these rights.At around the same time another anti-English bigot from Quebec,Bourassa was also passing more anti-English legislation (Bill 22) A precursor to Bill 101.What did Trudeau do or say about the removal of English rights in Quebec?NOTHING.Your typical anti-English francophone.You have no idea the hatred for you clowns in Quebec and Ottawa,and don't think for one minute that we have forgotten about our English speaking friends in Quebec.We will never forget them.Bilingualism is nothing more than a hiring quota for Francophones,it benefits no one other than Francophones,another fact,but i guess you like it that way.You make us sick. :barf: :barf: :barf: :x :x :x " KICK QUEBEC OUT " bumper stickers now avaiable,feel free to contact me if you would like one. doctort@rogers.com Cheers T
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Postby annunaki » 09/ 06/ 06 9:30 pm

doctorftf wrote:
Carmel Divine wrote:
pinetree wrote:
Carmel Divine wrote:Sacrifice English language rights in Québec??....BTW...there are MORE Anglophones in Québec than Francophones in Onrtario.....WE EXIST...

I'm not giving up my rights so those who sit 2 or 3 time zone away can get the French off of their corn flakes.....



What rights? That's the whole point. Bill 101 doesn't GIVE you any rights. English as the official language and French available where numbers warrant would give you everything you need.


Times have changed in Québec....I have read that for the most part, Anglos who live here now have "made peace" with Bill 101...it is not an issue...

It's only an issue for those who left in the '70s....they hang on to it like a "dog on a bone"

My son will soon be graduating from university and will be working in Montreal....he has both langauges...

We have English schools here....REAL radio and TV stations...newspapers...
(not only local cable channels and community "rags")

No sacrifices allowed here..go buy a chocolate Easter bunny and chop it up if you folks have to "offer something"

Vive le Québec! :hug:
Carmel,your an idiot if you think the English speaking population are ok with Bill 101,rights that were protected since 1867,under the BNA Act.We want our rights back,and until Bill 101 is repealed we will boycott the province.We will also boycott any company with a head office in Quebec (Bell)...In 1982 a French PM from Quebec (An anti-English bigot) Trudeau decided to remove these rights.At around the same time another anti-English bigot from Quebec,Bourassa was also passing more anti-English legislation (Bill 22) A precursor to Bill 101.What did Trudeau do or say about the removal of English rights in Quebec?NOTHING.Your typical anti-English francophone.You have no idea the hatred for you clowns in Quebec and Ottawa,and don't think for one minute that we have forgotten about our English speaking friends in Quebec.We will never forget them.Bilingualism is nothing more than a hiring quota for Francophones,it benefits no one other than Francophones,another fact,but i guess you like it that way.You make us sick. :barf: :barf: :barf: :x :x :x " KICK QUEBEC OUT " bumper stickers now avaiable,feel free to contact me if you would like one. doctort@rogers.com Cheers T



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Postby tanpro » 09/ 06/ 06 10:20 pm

A huge, big, enormous, whopping 24% of Canadians are considered 'French'. Yet, somehow we are a bilingual nation. That Trudeau-driven policy never has, nor will it ever, work. English is the universal language of business, while french is the universal language of....getting a job with the feds.

All of Canada's french should have the option of moving to Quebec just in time for their separation - the sooner, the better.
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Postby annunaki » 09/ 07/ 06 12:54 am

tanpro wrote:A huge, big, enormous, whopping 24% of Canadians are considered 'French'. Yet, somehow we are a bilingual nation. That Trudeau-driven policy never has, nor will it ever, work. English is the universal language of business, while french is the universal language of....getting a job with the feds.

All of Canada's french should have the option of moving to Quebec just in time for their separation - the sooner, the better.


and a huge % of that allegedly 'french' quarter know English
and use it every day. and are barely able to speak or write
their so-called mother tongue. What a farce.
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Postby RedDog » 09/ 07/ 06 7:27 am

Any "culture" which needs federal legislation (or provincial legislation paid for by funds extorted from others) to prop it up is not worth propping up in the first place.

If it has merit, and I believe it does in Quebec, then it will (and should) stand proudly on it's own.
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