An Open Letter to PM Harper

[Wlyonmackenzie]

Dear Prime Minister Harper:

Let me commend you on your firm stand to scrap the ineffective gun registry and stay the course on bill C-21. You have grown in my estimation from a politician to a statesman....someone who places princible and civil responsibility above politically expedient situational policy.

You will recieve my full support , both financially and voluntarily, in your election efforts. Canada now has a truly unique Prime Minister....one who keeps his word in the face of the hell storm of hysteria and negative emotional spew your political enemies concoct.

Part of that "spew" is the ridiculous contention that we must now keep the gun registry because of the Dawson school shootings, when in fact these were perpetraited by a madman who was both a certified federal licenced owner and a holder of a duely registered restricted firearm .....the logic used to justify the current registry in light of this reality challenges the confines of reality. I hope you make this abundantly clear to your detractors.

I also see that your two Quebec political opponents on the registry scrapping bill, fail to tell the people (they are baffling with their surreal logic on the value of the registry), that they run a jurisdiction which is allegedly so sold on regulatory gun control that it has a perfect track record of licencing and registering every one of its mass school shooters....Lapin, Fabricant, Gill and even Moms Boucher the Hells Angels hit man have been duely checked out and authorized to own their guns by Quebec's stand-alone gun control bureaucracy....I hope you have some fun reminding them of this in the ensuing registry debate.

We have evolved past the emotional and irrational hysteria that followed in the wake of Ecole Polytechnique. We now have had a decade of revelations as to the uselessness and horrendous waste the liberal vision of bureaucratic gun control has been. I am elated that you are carrying this rational viewpoint forward in dealing with more effective laws to combat the criminal misuse of firearms.

I might add that both the public and the victims of this repulsive Dawson lunatic, were all lulled into a fictitious sense of security by the false promise of registry-based gun control.....they bought the political lie of it being a hedge against insanity or anti social criminality....gun control advocates want us to believe that utopia can be legislated into being with tighter civilian gun control or civilian gun prohibition....they are utopian in their ideology and agenda and we all know history has proven utopian politics and social engineering have only aided criminals, madmen and tyrants.

I am so glad you and your caucus have not drunk the Jonestown punch of unfocused bureucratic gun control...the only hedge against determined criminals, madmen and tyrants is an armed and empowered civilly responsible public and a capable well deployed police force to help protect us from these dark anti social forces.

As much as modern utopian appologists hate to admit it, defensive violence is morally justified. Justified, armed defense is a basic human right. Guns also save lives and protect us when in the hands of a good man...the problem is that gun control has reduced the number of good men with guns as it has increased the number of bad men with guns.

I count on you Prime Minister Harper to put more good men on the streets with guns.

Sincerely,
A responsible firearms owner facing far too much criminal liability for the threat I pose.

[EdS]

Brilliant!

May I repost this to the CFD?

[Roy Wilson]

Wlyonmackenzie Excellent leter sir.

I would like to forward this to my Conservative MP DelMastro.

[leewgrant]

Very well put.

I got sick listening to Jack Ass Layton talking about "illegal" guns before anybody had any idea of what had happened. And now we hear of those who say, "the laws are not stringent enough We need tighter laws"

A test of character for Stephen Harper. If he backs down on this one he'll be dead meat in the eyes of conservatives.

[styky]

Wlyonmackenzie as usually you have covered all the bases

[Akimoya]

I'm afraid I can't share WLM's fulsome praise of Harper and the CPC. I am of the opinion that they are staging Bill C-21 to be their penultimate and final piece de resistance when it comes to the firearms file. There have been many statements made by Harper, Day, Toews, Strahl and others that indicate they have no intention of removing the licensing provisions, CCC s 91 & 92, that make mere gun ownership a crime.

That is absolutely NOT what the Reform/Alliance/CPC have been promising us for over a decade. And that is absolutely NOT what we have been DEMANDING from them, right from the start. And it certainly doesn't conform to CPC policy and governing principles.

For a selection of various policies and statements over the years, go to one of my web pages at:

http://home.cogeco.ca/~akimoya/rfc/CPC.quotes.html

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

[noel]

well done chum, perhaps they should outlaw the games on the internet, register all politicians especially the closet commies ie n.d.p and liberal. those political parasites called senators should be forced to spend 6 months in afghanistan to earn thier keep fr a change. but i,m just dreaming common sense does not prevail anymore. take care

[Wlyonmackenzie]

I'm afraid I can't share WLM's fulsome praise of Harper and the CPC. I am of the opinion that they are staging Bill C-21 to be their penultimate and final piece de resistance when it comes to the firearms file. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

Bruce you are talking to a gun owner and firearms activist of some 20 + years that has heard ALL the promises and lived to see them all broken. My support for Harper is as always CONDITIONAL.

The conditions you well know....that C-21 is a stepping stone to the total repeal of sec 91,92.

We are in a situation now ( fresh from another Montreal nutter school shooting being pumped by a hostile, foamy-mouthed leftist media looking for any excuse to bring Harper down) which I am certain would have made every politician I have ever known buckle and retreat and drop support for gun control reform like a hot stone....particualrly in a minority situation...remember a loss on the C-21 debate meams Harper must potentially fight an election on the gun control issue....there has never been a political leader willing to put it on the line for us and our principles....you don't find this a refreshing break in status quo crass politics??

Harper did not fold...what he did by staying the course on dismantling liberal gun control ( as much as C-21 is still a half measure by our standards ) is an act of loyalty to a voting block and a promise I see as uncommon.

Loyalty has to be rewarded....it is a rare commodity in the political support for RFC arguments.

All the same it does not mean that we do not keep their feet to the fire to deliver on the repeal of a criminalizing licence....and from the rumblings I'm hearing in the party that will become a reality probably sooner than later.

If you can think of another politician who would put this much on the line in carrying forth gun control reforms please tell me.

[Akimoya]

I'm afraid I can't share WLM's fulsome praise of Harper and the CPC. I am of the opinion that they are staging Bill C-21 to be their penultimate and final piece de resistance when it comes to the firearms file. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

Bruce you are talking to a gun owner and firearms activist of some 20 + years that has heard ALL the promises and lived to see them all broken. My support for Harper is as always CONDITIONAL.

The conditions you well know....that C-21 is a stepping stone to the total repeal of sec 91,92.

While I can appreciate that, your conditional support is not terribly evident from your letter. My concern is that Harper et al could take your missive and wave it around claiming that "gun owners support me uncondtionally!" - much like Day did when he claimed that the "gun owners" he has consulted with "support licensing"...

Harper did not fold...what he did by staying the course on dismantling liberal gun control ( as much as C-21 is still a half measure by our standards ) is an act of loyalty to a voting block and a promise I see as uncommon.

Loyalty has to be rewarded....it is a rare commodity in the political support for RFC arguments.

As I pointed out in my response, I am afraid that Bill C-21 will become the be-all and the end-all of gun control, as far as Harper and the current crop of misfits in charge of the CPC are concerned. If it passes, they can claim they "kept their promise"; if it fails they can say "we tried" - and then wash their hands of "the gun-control problem", and us, once and for all.

I would not put this past them, in the slightest.

All the same it does not mean that we do not keep their feet to the fire to deliver on the repeal of a criminalizing licence....and from the rumblings I'm hearing in the party that will become a reality probably sooner than later.

And how's that working out? Where's Garry B. been all this time? Have you had *any* substantial response as to when the Harper CPC government *really* intends to keep their promise, and our demand, to SCRAP C-68!

If you can think of another politician who would put this much on the line in carrying forth gun control reforms please tell me.

Meaningless, feel-good, do-nothing "reforms" that are intended solely to be a sop to long-gun owners (who, arguably, make up the vast majority of our numbers) is worse than nothing. It will completely de-motivate them (as if most of them were "motivated" in the first place), and will make *our* job of removing CCC s 91 & 92 TEN TIMES HARDER!

Step back and take a look at the big picture.

[Wlyonmackenzie]

We all know that as long as section 91/92/93/95/97 remain unchanged we can all be reduced to outlaws and our property outlawed without compensation at the stroke of a pen....it is not good enough for the CPC that THEY would not do this when we already know both the NDP and the Liberal leadership have openly declaired they will ban our firearms and outlaw us...THIS is our concern...and THIS is what has to be constantly hammered into the bureaucrats working in Harper's cabinate.

We still are getting mixed siganals from this government....Harper says he will "scrap/kill the registry ..Day says he will be keeping it...who do we believe...I want to believe Harper.

[Akimoya]

We all know that as long as section 91/92/93/95/97 remain unchanged we can all be reduced to outlaws and our property outlawed without compensation at the stroke of a pen....it is not good enough for the CPC that THEY would not do this when we already know both the NDP and the Liberal leadership have openly declaired they will ban our firearms and outlaw us...THIS is our concern...and THIS is what has to be constantly hammered into the bureaucrats working in Harper's cabinate.

If they haven't gotten the message in the PAST 12 YEARS, what makes you think they're *ever* going to "get it"? Harper, Day, Toews, Strahl, they've all been around the Reform/Alliance/CPC for ages now - do you seriously believe that Garry B. has been completely ineffectual in presenting "the truth" to these people for the PAST 12 YEARS? If it isn't Garry's fault, then the fault must lie with *THEM*.

We still are getting mixed siganals from this government....Harper says he will "scrap/kill the registry ..Day says he will be keeping it...who do we believe...I want to believe Harper.

There is no conflict, because they are *both* right: Harper says he will "scrap the registry" - by which he means the "long gun registry" *ONLY*. There will still be a "registry" for restricted and prohibited firearms, run by the RCMP, as before. Under Bill C-21, long guns will *still* be "registered", but, as before, at the point of sale. The only thing different is that there won't be any "central registry" a la the CFC.

It's all semantics, WLM, intended to deliberately confuse and obfuscate. You of all people should be aware of this.

[gimbol]

Want to see a retreat by the liberals over this?
This involves funding so it can be a confidence motion.

He should table the vote right after the liberals finish delegate selection for their convention for maximum damage.

[danielmryan]

Has anyone noted that the long-gun registry is still around as of now, and was ineffectual with respect to the Dawson shooting?

[Wlyonmackenzie]

If they haven't gotten the message in the PAST 12 YEARS, what makes you think they're *ever* going to "get it"? Harper, Day, Toews, Strahl, they've all been around the Reform/Alliance/CPC for ages now - do you seriously believe that Garry B. has been completely ineffectual in presenting "the truth" to these people for the PAST 12 YEARS? If it isn't Garry's fault, then the fault must lie with *THEM*.

Common Bruce now you are being purposely ignorant and argumentaive to no purpose....I have worked with the MPs in 4 Reform/CA parliaments and the message has to constantly be re established as a new crop of MPs need to be re educated...they really are blank on this and usually tow the cabinate policy line and mindlessly repeat their scripted approved talking points.

I have worked feverishly in the party to get the RFC position made general knowledge and I can state it is an endless task and there are damn few in the trenches helping me.

There is no conflict, because they are *both* right:
It's all semantics, WLM, intended to deliberately confuse and obfuscate. You of all people should be aware of this.

Well I know one thing for sure there is such tight control of info flow in this government that eveb Garry B has a hard time getting the proper educational materials widely deceminated, let alone those of us in the party who constructed the firearms policy.

Now I'm going to say something that has to said and I don't want you to take it the wrong way, it is not focused at you but at the wider RFC who are bickering over "semantics" at this point and fail to see realities. I was one of you but I have seen a separate set of realities which have demonstrated to me that this is self destructive.

Here are the realities:

1) there is a probable chance C-21 won't pass...I'm not optomistic

2) as it stands now the CPC are the only party who do not want to outlaw you and ban your guns the moment they get in power...all the other federal parties have openly declaired they want a gun ban....confiscation is one federal election away...never forget that!

3) Like it or not the CPC is the only game in town and your last hope.

If you slap the only helping hand you have you are either a masochist or an idealistic zealot determined to seek civil confrontation with the looming authoritarian state.

It makes no sense to me to fight against the only hope rather than get involved and help drive policy from in the ranks....I have never been comfortable with the number of ACTIVE RFC advocates in Reform/CA/CPC party ranks...there are never enough..... frankly there is a large red-statist contingent in the CPC who want to dump us and the firearms issue and the only thing standing in their way is Harper.....so know who your friends are.

So, rationally, if you own guns and want to be able to continue to use them you had better make sure the CPC stay in power and get involved in the party to first, keep them in power and second, drive the repeal agenda.

You really have no choice either than to join the self declared outlaws who comply with no gun control ....non compliance is a last course of action , and I do not exclude it from my personal actions....but only after I have exhausted every political option.

Taliban Jack, the Quebec commies, Liberal leadership sophists AND the CPC 'reds" need to know, that I and most responsible firearms owners are at the end of our patience... will accept NO bans or prohibition of either our legally owned firearms or our right to access them as the result of vulgar vote buying sophistry. We are through being political scape goats and I utterly refuse to be criminalized or have my property stolen....so talk bans and prohibition at the risk of civil disobedience.

I am prepared to fight that battle ( a true civil conflict) when it comes. But it makes no sense to rush into it when there are still political options....if C-21 passes it will make the total bans the statist left have in mind harder to accomplsh should some statist, civilly repressive leftist regime take over from the CPC...at the very least it will also make principled civil resistance easier.

[Faith Hope and Love]

We all know that as long as section 91/92/93/95/97 remain unchanged we can all be reduced to outlaws and our property outlawed without compensation at the stroke of a pen....it is not good enough for the CPC that THEY would not do this when we already know both the NDP and the Liberal leadership have openly declaired they will ban our firearms and outlaw us...THIS is our concern...and THIS is what has to be constantly hammered into the bureaucrats working in Harper's cabinate.

If they haven't gotten the message in the PAST 12 YEARS, what makes you think they're *ever* going to "get it"? Harper, Day, Toews, Strahl, they've all been around the Reform/Alliance/CPC for ages now - do you seriously believe that Garry B. has been completely ineffectual in presenting "the truth" to these people for the PAST 12 YEARS? If it isn't Garry's fault, then the fault must lie with *THEM*.

We still are getting mixed siganals from this government....Harper says he will "scrap/kill the registry ..Day says he will be keeping it...who do we believe...I want to believe Harper.

There is no conflict, because they are *both* right: Harper says he will "scrap the registry" - by which he means the "long gun registry" *ONLY*. There will still be a "registry" for restricted and prohibited firearms, run by the RCMP, as before. Under Bill C-21, long guns will *still* be "registered", but, as before, at the point of sale. The only thing different is that there won't be any "central registry" a la the CFC.

It's all semantics, WLM, intended to deliberately confuse and obfuscate. You of all people should be aware of this.

I agree with YOU, Akimoya - and yes, the number of years this has remained unresolved need not accumulate further. Scrap C-68. Period. Remember how long ago those little orange stickers were distributed? I do.

Advocating a political initiative that does not resolve the root issues is subversive activism based on "win by any means" political opportunism, not part of a battle on principles. Either do the job right , don't even tackle it, or get outa the way and clear the way for somebody who can and will. The latter statements are not issue-specific, either...we see results of the same battles across the board. See my signature