Father's Rights

[Canadian Rebel Alliance]

Well first and for most I would like to thank FD for putting in this forum

Thank you Free Dominion

now on to the problem at hand

[Canadian Rebel Alliance]

Here is a interesting web site that your tax dollars are going to. It teaches a woman how to screw her huband out of every dollar she can. It promots Fathers never seeing there Children. It also makes every male on earth look like a mass murderers.

http://www.owjn.org/
Ontario Womens Justice Network

and here is a look at how this group gets it's money so that it can Male Bash

Pretty interesting... I was curious.

Funding to METRAC (parent organization for OWJN).

United Way Toronto, $10,000
Ontario Govt. $100,000
(http://www.gov.on.ca/citizenship/englis ... 010501.htm
City of Toronto: $10,000
(http://www.city.toronto.on.ca/legdocs/1 ... 91123/pof1
0rpt/cl007.htm)
Toronto Star/Royal Bank: $90,000 (printing and distribution costs in lieu of
$90,000)
http://www.city.toronto.on.ca/legdocs/1 ... 1123/pof10
rpt/cl007.htm
Molson' and the Gannet Foundation (Mediacom), $10,000
http://www.city.toronto.on.ca/legdocs/1 ... 1123/pof10
rpt/cl007.htm

Plus a presumably significant income from consulting and training offered by
METRAC.

That info just from a cursory web search.

[Canadian Rebel Alliance]

Exeter Times-Advocate
Wednesday, November 27, 2002

It's not fair, it's not right, and it certainly is not just
Dear Editor:
Having been brought in a home where both my parents believed that women were equal to men in every way, I, too, raised my own sons and daughters in the same belief. Years ago, when one of my daughters was still a teenager, I overheard her tell a friend, "My mother was the first
feminist I ever met!"
So, yes, I have always spoken. out for the equality of the sexes but now I find I must also speak out for justice and fairness.
The Domestic Violence Act, brought into being several years ago, was
hailed as a: triumph, especially for women in abusive situations. If a
woman found herself in an abusive relationship, the Act gave her the
right to simply report the abuse to the police who would then charge the
man and remove him from the scene. It seemed a great step forward, and in most ways it was.
The only trouble with the Act was that it failed to real ize that out in the real world, along with the men, there were some vicious and very abusive women who would use the law to their own advantage Since the Acts inception many men have been falsely charged of abuse and had their lives destroyed by vindictive, deceitful women. For a man in this kind of situation, it's almost impossible to receive justice because it nearly always comes down to his word against that of the woman's. For over 50 years women have struggled for their rights while instilling society with the idea that most men behave badly towards women. Now we live in a social climate where a woman's word (no matter bow outrageous) is believed over that of a man's. Many men become so discouraged and frustrated trying to prove their innocence that they give up the fight, many of them even resorting to plead guilty just to get the matter over with so they can get on. with their lives.

In the past year, I've sat in courts where it seemed to me that the
court was so fearful of allowing a man accused of abuse his freedom that
it bent over back wards to make sure he didn't get a fair hearing The
courts are afraid if they should make a mistake and let a man go free
and have him return to abuse or even kill the woman involved, that
society will hold them responsible and accountable. This is
understandable because it's true that horrific events like this have
happened on a few rare occasions and, of course, this is deplorable. My
point is that deplorable as this may be, the courts have become
paranoid; One crown attorney was heard to say near the end of one man's trial, "The fellow may not be guilty, but I have to take care to cover
my own neck." He went on to demand the most outrageous and excessive
terms of release. The innocent man in question spent time in jail, was
left jobless and homeless, his reputation in shreds. All because a
controlling, rejected woman set out to destroy him with her lies.
Yesterday, I spent most of the day in court with another young man (age
29) who also has been falsely accused of physical abuse by the woman he
had broken up with. This is a man with a Ph.D., a good job and a
brilliant future, all of which he will most certainly lose if she wins
the case. The trial did not conclude yesterday and had to be reset for a
day next spring. In the meantime, he lives with this charge hanging over
his head, now knowing what the outcome will be. He is learning that one
of the hardest things to fight in this world is a lie told by a
rejected, jealous woman.
Ever since 1 began to involve myself with some of these falsely accused
men and speak out for men?s rights, it has amazed me how many there are who are suffering form the same untold agonies - from losing their
children, their homes and reputations, to piling up horrendous legal
fees. I venture to say that in our own County there are dozens, and
thousands across the whole of Canada.
The saddest case I've heard about is of a very decent man whose marriage broke up, and his wife, wanting to destroy him, accused him of the worst thing she could think of - that of sexually assaulting their three
little chil dren. Although the charge was completely false, it took
three years in the courts for him to gain access to his children. In the
meantime, his wife got full custody of the children, was awarded the
house and a very healthy financial arrangement. What did he get? -
bankruptcy and a nervous breakdown.
What is to be done? The Domestic Violence Act is needed to help women
get out of abusive relationship, but as so often happens, the scales of
justice have been tipped too far. Somehow, the people who make up our
laws much change the law so that it has some bit or deterrent for
deceitful women who know how to use the system to their own revengeful
advantage. Gordon Cudmore, London lawyer, pointed out in his column in
the London Free Press (March 23, 2003) when he wrote on the subject,
that it's as easy for a woman to pick up the phone and accuse her
partner of abuse as it is for her to order a pizza. The consequences,
however, are far more serious and long lasting for the accused man,
especially if he's innocent.
It's not fair, it's not right, and it certainly is not just.
SINCERELY, GWYNETH WHILSMITH

[tay]

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[Sojourner]

The courst and culture of Canada are definitely vindictive and mean in their persecution of men.

You pay, buddy, or else...

They even invented the notion of "dead-beat dads" to propagandize their agenda.

Mclellan wouldn't even forward the advice of her own committee, on creating such a thing as "joint custody."

It's a vicious, leftist-feminist social agenda.

[styky]

It's a vicious, leftist-feminist social agenda.

Never a truer sentence was said. I agree completely.

[shiva]

I have to ask why the system promotes the enablement of any parent to make poor parenting choices. Is this in the ‘Best Interest of the Child’?

No. But as you are aware, there's something that trumps "best interests of the child" and that is, best interests of the mother. For example, I believe recently the courts have decided that a custodial parent (i.e. more often than not - mother) can move away from the non-custodial parent (i.e. more often than not - the father) if it can be proven that it is in her best interest to do so. One of the tests is if she can show that she is moving into a situation where she will suffer less "stress" and by extension, this is somehow better for the children. Once again, the adults (the woman) asks the courts to look after her needs and ignore both the needs of the father and even more outrageously, the needs of the children to have their father nearby. There is no doubt in my mind that in pursuing an agenda of equalization, the pendulum has swung too far the other way. When the courts abandon common sense and refuse to consider the possibility that a woman could also act selfishly, and refuse to "judge" her on that basis, then unfortunately children will continue to suffer for the sake of political correctness.

By the way Tay, good for you! I'm sure it was not easy to continue to do the right thing in a situation where you felt you were being taken advantage of, but in the end, you and your children will know that you always did the right thing and that's worth everything.

[Federal 1/2 Slave]

Here's a good one!
A fellow I know had a child with a woman he was living with. They broke up and he paid support with visitation every other weekend. The mother had another child by another father (not married) and all was well for another 3 or 4 years. The mother tired of the first child (by now 9 or 10 years old) and granted (through the courts) custody to the childs maternal grandmother. The father of the child was denied custody.

Here's where it get really ripe! The Maternal grandmother of the child moved from Calgary to the Yukon (I don't recall which town) with her grandaughter without concent of the father, there by severing any physical contact with the child with exception of summer holidays. (he gets to see his daughter two weeks a year.) He writes her at least twice a week to try to keep in touch but believes most of his letters are disposed of before his daughter reads them. (his daughter asks why he does not write very often).

Gotta love Canadian courts. When a couple splits up the father is nothing more than a "has been penis" and a (present day) wallet, even when he tries to be a positive influence on his kids life.

[snowyman]

. Is this in the ‘Best
Interest of the Child’?


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Anyone who has been there has their own story . Time and hindsight are great healers and in some cases great justifiers .
Eighteen years ago I journeyed into that black sadness and although I can honestly say I have forgiven most , I will never forget nor forgive , not how I was treated , rather how my children were treated. Two things I learned . Children are not resilient , they hurt too . And saying they are is bs used by feminists to justify their actions . And the other so obvious the feminists , and the court , have never figured it out . Children become adults . The day comes when they decide. They also never forget and have an entirely different agenda than the mother does. Dad is important to them.

I was given sound , age old advice . I've never forgot it and it served me well . In their own time each of my three kids chose to come and live with me. Each , in their own time, told me their story, and how they were hurt . Each , in their own time ,came with a hug and a thank you .

The advice. " Be honourable and decent in all that you do. Some day you will be held accountable. "

That goes for everyone. Including Mom.