OK, men, what if your wife elects to end a doomed pregnancy?

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You've just been told that your unborn child is badly malfomed with zero chance of survival to full term. Your previously pro-life wife decides to end the pregnancy now rather than go through a stillbirth. What do you do?

Leave the murdering bitch.
3
21%
Stay & make her understand that she has done wrong and needs to repent.
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No votes
Pretend it didn't happen & never speak of it again
0
No votes
Give her the emotional support she needs to put this devastating experience behind her & move on.
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79%
 
Total votes : 14

OK, men, what if your wife elects to end a doomed pregnancy?

Postby dwday » 10/ 31/ 10 9:15 am

This arises from this thread, where I made the statement that under these circumstances a man who wouldn't be supportive of his wife wasn't much of a man. I stand by that.

http://www.freedominion.com.pa/phpBB2/v ... p?t=137025

Aaron Gouveia wrote:After extensive testing at a renowned Boston hospital three weeks earlier, we were told our baby had Sirenomelia. Otherwise known as Mermaid Syndrome, it’s a rare (one in every 100,000 pregnancies) congenital deformity in which the legs are fused together. Worse than that, our baby had no bladder or kidneys. Our doctors told us there was zero chance for survival.

I’m not a religious person and I’ve never believed in heaven or hell. But there is a hell on Earth. Hell is sitting next to the person you love most and listening to her wail hysterically because her heart just broke into a million pieces. Hell is watching her entire body convulse with sobs because she’s being tortured with grief. For as long as I live and no matter how many children we have, I will never forget that sound.
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Postby Fabulous Fred » 10/ 31/ 10 9:23 am

Your poll is fatally flawed.

This is not a decision made by one and imposed on the other are your poll suggests. This is something decided by two, not one.
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Postby dwday » 10/ 31/ 10 9:29 am

Fabulous Fred wrote:Your poll is fatally flawed.

This is not a decision made by one and imposed on the other are your poll suggests. This is something decided by two, not one.


You're not the first to say that, Fred, and I hope that would be the case, but in the event that they disagree & the wife is not willing to acceed to her husband's wishes, no compromise is possible. She goes ahead with the abortion...what do you do?
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Re: OK, men, what if your wife elects to end a doomed pregna

Postby styky » 10/ 31/ 10 9:29 am

I'm with you on that.

dwday wrote:This arises from this thread, where I made the statement that under these circumstances a man who wouldn't be supportive of his wife wasn't much of a man. I stand by that.

http://www.freedominion.com.pa/phpBB2/v ... p?t=137025

Aaron Gouveia wrote:After extensive testing at a renowned Boston hospital three weeks earlier, we were told our baby had Sirenomelia. Otherwise known as Mermaid Syndrome, it’s a rare (one in every 100,000 pregnancies) congenital deformity in which the legs are fused together. Worse than that, our baby had no bladder or kidneys. Our doctors told us there was zero chance for survival.

I’m not a religious person and I’ve never believed in heaven or hell. But there is a hell on Earth. Hell is sitting next to the person you love most and listening to her wail hysterically because her heart just broke into a million pieces. Hell is watching her entire body convulse with sobs because she’s being tortured with grief. For as long as I live and no matter how many children we have, I will never forget that sound.
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Postby RedDog » 10/ 31/ 10 9:30 am

What if the woman in your life decides to terminate a perfectly healthy pregnancy?
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Postby dwday » 10/ 31/ 10 9:37 am

RedDog wrote:What if the woman in your life decides to terminate a perfectly healthy pregnancy?


I know some here will refuse to admit any distinction, but IMO that's a whole different thing, and I wouldn't think any less of a man for whom that would be a deal breaker.
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Postby Yoda » 10/ 31/ 10 9:41 am

dwday wrote:
RedDog wrote:What if the woman in your life decides to terminate a perfectly healthy pregnancy?


I know some here will refuse to admit any distinction, but IMO that's a whole different thing, and I wouldn't think any less of a man for whom that would be a deal breaker.


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Postby Post Tenebras Lux » 10/ 31/ 10 10:43 am

Fabulous Fred wrote:Your poll is fatally flawed.

This is not a decision made by one and imposed on the other are your poll suggests. This is something decided by two, not one.

FF is right. The poll is flawed and your bias comes through even in the wording.
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Postby dwday » 10/ 31/ 10 2:45 pm

Post Tenebras Lux wrote:
Fabulous Fred wrote:Your poll is fatally flawed.

This is not a decision made by one and imposed on the other are your poll suggests. This is something decided by two, not one.

FF is right. The poll is flawed and your bias comes through even in the wording.


In other words, you simply won't admit to the possibility that a woman would go against her husband's wishes, and I'm biased because I'm asking you to consider what you'd do if that happened.

It's interesting that none of the pro-life men will tell me what they'd do if faced with this. Not one.
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Postby dwday » 10/ 31/ 10 2:48 pm

Yoda wrote:
dwday wrote:
RedDog wrote:What if the woman in your life decides to terminate a perfectly healthy pregnancy?


I know some here will refuse to admit any distinction, but IMO that's a whole different thing, and I wouldn't think any less of a man for whom that would be a deal breaker.


Situational ethics:

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A system of ethics that evaluates acts in light of their situational context rather than by the application of moral absolutes.


Yes, and proud of it. For my money, far more of the world's ills are caused by people who see the world in black and white than by people who see shades of grey.
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Postby Post Tenebras Lux » 10/ 31/ 10 2:50 pm

dwday wrote:
Post Tenebras Lux wrote:
Fabulous Fred wrote:Your poll is fatally flawed.

This is not a decision made by one and imposed on the other are your poll suggests. This is something decided by two, not one.

FF is right. The poll is flawed and your bias comes through even in the wording.


In other words, you simply won't admit to the possibility that a woman would go against her husband's wishes, and I'm biased because I'm asking you to consider what you'd do if that happened.

It's interesting that none of the pro-life men will tell me what they'd do if faced with this. Not one.


Not at all. Your bias shows in the wording in option number one. Even under the worst of circumstances, I would never refer to my wife as such.
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Postby Post Tenebras Lux » 10/ 31/ 10 2:58 pm

Leave the murdering bitch.

Stay & make her understand that she has done wrong and needs to repent.

Pretend it didn't happen & never speak of it again

Give her the emotional support she needs to put this devastating experience behind her & move on.

Look at the options you have put in this poll.

#1 - reveals your views of what anyone thinks of their wife should such a thing take place. I happen to disagree strongly with that assessment.

#2 - You have mixed together actions that should really be separated.

#3 - Can't think it could ever happen to a couple who, according to your preamble, are pro-life to begin with.

#4 - Again, you link together issues that ought not to be. Your bias is pretty clear.

For example, a husband might want to be "emotionally supportive" (from #3), but also desire to say she needs repentance. (from #2)

The poll is flawed in that unless you cover all the variables, and it is based on presuppositions that for many are simply non-existent.

For me, there is nothing in there I could vote for.
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Postby JLS » 10/ 31/ 10 3:06 pm

Post Tenebras Lux wrote:
Fabulous Fred wrote:
Your poll is fatally flawed.

This is not a decision made by one and imposed on the other are your poll suggests. This is something decided by two, not one.

FF is right. The poll is flawed and your bias comes through even in the wording.


In other words, you simply won't admit to the possibility that a woman would go against her husband's wishes, and I'm biased because I'm asking you to consider what you'd do if that happened.

It's interesting that none of the pro-life men will tell me what they'd do if faced with this. Not one.


I have noticed that as well and it only shows how full of $hit some people are.

Good post dwday! =D>
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Postby dwday » 10/ 31/ 10 3:06 pm

Post Tenebras Lux wrote:
Leave the murdering bitch.

Stay & make her understand that she has done wrong and needs to repent.

Pretend it didn't happen & never speak of it again

Give her the emotional support she needs to put this devastating experience behind her & move on.

Look at the options you have put in this poll.

#1 - reveals your views of what anyone thinks of their wife should such a thing take place. I happen to disagree strongly with that assessment.

#2 - You have mixed together actions that should really be separated.

#3 - Can't think it could ever happen to a couple who, according to your preamble, are pro-life to begin with.

#4 - Again, you link together issues that ought not to be. Your bias is pretty clear.

For example, a husband might want to be "emotionally supportive" (from #3), but also desire to say she needs repentance. (from #2)

The poll is flawed in that unless you cover all the variables, and it is based on presuppositions that for many are simply non-existent.

For me, there is nothing in there I could vote for.


Fair enough. True of most polls, but perhaps you could spell out exactly what it is that you would be happy to check off. - and yeah, I worded the first option prejudicially, but it was a bit tongue in cheek because I honestly don't believe anybody would actually leave their wife under such circumstances. Yoda, maybe.
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Postby Yoda » 10/ 31/ 10 3:33 pm

JLS wrote:
Post Tenebras Lux wrote:
Fabulous Fred wrote:
Your poll is fatally flawed.

This is not a decision made by one and imposed on the other are your poll suggests. This is something decided by two, not one.

FF is right. The poll is flawed and your bias comes through even in the wording.


In other words, you simply won't admit to the possibility that a woman would go against her husband's wishes, and I'm biased because I'm asking you to consider what you'd do if that happened.

It's interesting that none of the pro-life men will tell me what they'd do if faced with this. Not one.


I have noticed that as well and it only shows how full of $hit some people are.

Good post dwday! =D>


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