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Is Harper Leading Canada to War with Iran?

Postby JOE HUEGLIN » 10/ 17/ 11 1:48 pm

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Is Harper Leading Canada to War with Iran?
http://www.pacificfreepress.com/news/1/ ... -iran.html
written by Joe Hueglin

Could Harper Seeing Iran as the "Most Significant Threat" to the World Lead to Canada Going to War?
by Joe Hueglin
Canada's current air force attack planes have engaged in three wars: the Gulf War; the war against Serbia; and, currently, supporting the National Transitional Council in Libya. None of these were against against countries posing a threat to Canada.

Though the general reaction to the American accusation of a murder plot by Iran is embodied in headlines entitled 'Ten Reasons To Question US Allegations of Iranian Teror Plot,' 'Iranian Terror Plot: Fake, Fake, Fake,' 'U.S. accusation of Iranian assassination plot is met with skepticism,' 'Is alleged Iranian plot a "provocation by an outside agency?" asks Guardian,' Prime Minister Harper unquestioningly accepts the validity of the accusation. Indeed his reaction is headlined 'Iran "most significant" threat to world, Harper says.'

Currently, as noted in the Selkirk Journal, Canada is "working closely with our allies to coordinate next steps", "Canada has walked lockstep with the Americans by imposing sanctions" and "Washington is expected to seek more sanctions against Iran, and Canada is most certainly to follow suit."

There are those who see the accusation's purpose as aimed at preparing American (and Canadian) public opinion for "a war with Iran."

What would Canada do if Iran was attacked by Israel and the United States? Would we remain neutral or act in "lockstep" and become engaged in a third war in a distant land?

Could Canada become engaged in a war with Iran?

Yes, to remove the "most significant threat" to the world according to Stephen Harper, in whose hands the decision of war or peace rests.

Quote: "So how to bury Fast and Furious, the economic abyss, the 10 years of war in Afghanistan, the increasing allure of Occupy Wall Street - not to mention the Saudi role in smashing the spirit of the Arab Spring? By uncovering a good ol' al-Qaeda style plot on US soil, on top of it conducted by "evil" Iran. Al-Qaeda and Tehran sharing top billing; not even Cheney and Rumsfeld in their heyday could come up with something like this. Long live GWOT (the global war on terror). And long live the neo-con spirit; remember, real men go to Tehran - and the road starts now. " - http://hamsayeh.net/society/1254-the-fa ... y-iran.htm

The ACCUSATION and HARPER'S VIEW:

The U.S. disrupts an Iranian plot to assassinate Saudi ambassador
http://mideast.foreignpolicy.com/posts/ ... ambassador
Iran 'most significant' threat to world, Harper says
http://dailygleaner.canadaeast.com/cana ... le/1448112

OTHER VIEWS OF THE ACCUSATION

Ten Reasons To Question US Allegations of Iranian Teror Plot
http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/?id=48546

Iranian Terror Plot: Fake, Fake, Fake
http://hamsayeh.net/articles/1253-irani ... -fake.html

Is alleged Iranian plot a "provocation by an outside agency"? asks Guardian
http://hamsayeh.net/society/1256-is-all ... rdian.html

Unanswered questions over the alleged Iranian assassination plot
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/oc ... sfeed=true

U.S. accusation of Iranian assassination plot is met with skepticism
http://mideast.foreignpolicy.com/posts/ ... ning_brief

CONSIDERATION OF CANADA'S REACTIONS:
Harper considering options to punish Iran
http://www.selkirkjournal.com/ArticleDi ... ?e=3334403

POTENTIAL FOR WAR
Sources: US Gives Israel Green Light For Iran Strike
http://www.prisonplanet.com/sources-us- ... trike.html

Do the D.C. bomb plot and Schalit deal spell "war with Iran"?
http://972mag.com/does-the-d-c-bomb-plo ... %9D/25274/

The Fast And Furious Plot To Occupy Iran
http://hamsayeh.net/society/1254-the-fa ... -iran.html
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Re: Is Harper Leading Canada to War with Iran?

Postby styky » 10/ 17/ 11 2:33 pm

The bigger question is is Iran looking to go to war with the world. Until you answer that everything else is moot.
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Re: Is Harper Leading Canada to War with Iran?

Postby DA_Champion » 10/ 17/ 11 2:38 pm

styky wrote:The bigger question is is Iran looking to go to war with the world. Until you answer that everything else is moot.


There is no question. They are not looking "to go to war with the world".
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Re: Is Harper Leading Canada to War with Iran?

Postby RedDog » 10/ 17/ 11 2:39 pm

styky wrote:The bigger question is is Iran looking to go to war with the world. Until you answer that everything else is moot.

That was my thought. It's not Harper. Iran is in the school yard taunting everyone on. They'll get their wish but I expect Syria will get its corrective cleansing first. They're next on the hit parade.
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Re: Is Harper Leading Canada to War with Iran?

Postby DA_Champion » 10/ 17/ 11 2:53 pm

RedDog wrote:Iran is in the school yard taunting everyone on.

?????

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Is Harper Leading Canada to War with Iran?

Postby WestViking » 10/ 17/ 11 2:59 pm

Iran is an Islamic theocracy with nuclear ambitions, and is neither benign or stable. Spiritual leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei and President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad are ambitious and unpredictable. The Iranian people are suffering from harsh conditions and shortages as the bulk of national spending goes to the military and armament.

If Iran was to attack a Canadian ally, Canada might get involved to the extent that our military resources allow. We did not join the US in the reoccupation of Iraq as we had committed to combat in Afghanistan and did not have the resources to open a second engagement in Iraq.

There is no credible evidence that we are preparing for an engagement with Iran. Bush had to call in a lot of markers to be able to reoccupy Iraq. Obama does not have any markers to call in if he wants to war with Iran.

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Re: Is Harper Leading Canada to War with Iran?

Postby RedDog » 10/ 17/ 11 3:03 pm

Yes, sabre rattling from Iran is getting long in the tooth but talk is cheap and I'm not sure who's even paying attention to them anymore. I suspect it would take some significant act on their part involving Israel to invite swift response.
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Re: Is Harper Leading Canada to War with Iran?

Postby JOE HUEGLIN » 10/ 17/ 11 4:03 pm

styky wrote:The bigger question is is Iran looking to go to war with the world. Until you answer that everything else is moot.


No. Iran is not looking to go to war with the world. Which country in the world has a considerable portion of the world fearful it may go to war with them?
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Re: Is Harper Leading Canada to War with Iran?

Postby WestViking » 10/ 17/ 11 4:31 pm

JOE HUEGLIN wrote:
styky wrote:The bigger question is is Iran looking to go to war with the world. Until you answer that everything else is moot.
No. Iran is not looking to go to war with the world. Which country in the world has a considerable portion of the world fearful it may go to war with them?

If you have a problem with the US administration's foreign policy, why don't you say so? You are beating around the bush like a liberal pansy which is not like you at all. (pun intended)
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Re: Is Harper Leading Canada to War with Iran?

Postby Faramir » 10/ 17/ 11 4:46 pm

Geez...without US leadership I hardly think Canada is about to get into that mess. Iran attempted to committ and act of terror on US soil and all the Obamaniation can muster is lame sanctions?

If it weren't for the terrorist agencies Iran supported I'd say Iran is a European problem. After all they are the closest to whatever missiles it develops. The stage was set the moment Reagan gave in and tucked tail and ran after the 200 dead marines. That was a huge mistake but in the early 80s we still saw the Mohammedians as comical at best, not a real threat.
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Re: Is Harper Leading Canada to War with Iran?

Postby JOE HUEGLIN » 10/ 17/ 11 5:17 pm

Do any of y'all give credence to the gist of these articles?

.....Joe
Sources: US Gives Israel Green Light For Iran Strike
http://www.prisonplanet.com/sources-us- ... trike.html

Do the D.C. bomb plot and Schalit deal spell "war with Iran"?
http://972mag.com/does-the-d-c-bomb-plo ... %9D/25274/

The Fast And Furious Plot To Occupy Iran
http://hamsayeh.net/society/1254-the-fa ... -iran.html
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Re: Is Harper Leading Canada to War with Iran?

Postby DA_Champion » 10/ 17/ 11 5:28 pm

I'm shocked you read prison planet. You had a national following at one point and very powerful people read (still read?) your newsletter.

I think this means rejection of the establishment is stretching further into society, closer to its core, and that doesn't bode well. I would expect you to be among the last people to stop instinctively trusting the NY Times and to turn the lights off of CNN.
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Re: Is Harper Leading Canada to War with Iran?

Postby SovietCanuckistan » 10/ 17/ 11 5:34 pm

Intriguing some people see the best in Iran and the worst in the USA.
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Re: Is Harper Leading Canada to War with Iran?

Postby JOE HUEGLIN » 10/ 17/ 11 11:35 pm

A few more thoughts about potential war with Iran.

Still nothing overly supportive of what SJH holds to be true.

Were an attack to be made Israel would be my bet to win, US to place Canada to show.

What say you?

.....Joe

Iranian Assassination Confabulations: Plotting the Course of a Set-Up
http://www.pacificfreepress.com/news/1/ ... et-up.html
U.S. Officials Peddle False Intel to Support Terror Plot
http://www.informationclearinghouse.inf ... e29434.htm
Iran Had Better Watch Its Step Now Obama's Chasing Votes
http://www.informationclearinghouse.inf ... e29420.htm
'Israelis, Saudis' Behind Iran Terror Plot: Former CIA Operative http://www.informationclearinghouse.inf ... e29426.htm
Engineering Consent For Attack On Iran :
http://goo.gl/g5LpE
Military Force an Option Against Iran, U.S. Republican Says:
http://goo.gl/ElYny
Measuring consent for Iran attack:
http://goo.gl/IJddI
Iran's leader warns US:
http://www.shanghaidaily.com/article/?i ... type=World
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Re: Is Harper Leading Canada to War with Iran?

Postby Dogpatch » 10/ 17/ 11 11:55 pm

Actually Joe, this is not the first time Iran has conducted this type of scenario

    Mansour Ahani said he was fleeing religious and political persecution in Iran when he arrived at Vancouver airport from Singapore in October 1991.

    "I am dead if I return," he wrote in his refugee claim.

    But after spending months following Ahani, Canadian intelligence officers came to a startling conclusion: He was a highly trained Iranian government assassin whose handlers were planning an attack on the British author Salman Rushdie.

    http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Echoe ... story.html

I think their past speaks for itself on the newest allegations (which are most probably true).

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