Who is to Blame for Economic Decline?

[DA_Champion]

This is fairly wild-eyed analysis if you ask me. Let me correct some things.

The bombing of Serbian troops was to halt their advances into Muslim Bosnia.

The colour revolutions were the "European Spring," the naive attempt to inaugurate freedom following liberation from the Soviet Union.

Georgia did not invade anyone. It was invaded by Russia in revenge for aligning with the West.

Who is this "they" who are trying to dismember Syria? Syria is being attacked by from within by Muslim fundamentalists with the aid of all Qaida.

Russia is not being dismembered. It is dying out and soon will be a Muslim country.

Nobody engineered a Russian fertility decline through economic sabotage. That belongs in the Conspiracy Theories forum.

And Naomi Klein is an ignorant hag. She belongs in the dumpster of history.

Your analysis is flying off in every direction. Please, reign it in.

You appear to take the word of the media as is. You have a vision of the world as being one of corporations vs governments, with the media reporting as a sort of referee, etc. I used to buy into the same world view. I slowly and grudgingly gave up on that world view because it doesn't work, it makes no successful predictions and is as such anti-scientific. I'll note for example that there is very little difference between Bush and Obama, or between Obama and Romney.

Georgia was the one who invaded South Ossetia. That's how it happened and how it was reported across the world's media. Only among the anglo-american media did anyone report that Russia invaded Georgia. The first attacking was the night of 7 to 8 August 2008 and was by Georgian forces. Does it not bother you that Anglo-American media painted a unique picture of the conflict, different from the correct one of the South American, East Asian, South Asian, etc media?

The people who want to dismantle Syria are the neocons, i.e. the ideological group that runs the democratic/republican party in the United States. They are allied with Al-Qaeda as they were in Libya. Syria is a Russo-Iranian ally so it makes sense to turn it to rubble.

Neoconservative Hillary Clinton on NATO's genocide in Libya:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgcd1ghag5Y

Naomi Klein's the Shock Doctrine is one of the great journalistic achievements of our time. All of her examples are well documented. Your comment that she's an ignorant hag is just partisan rubbish.

[Faramir]

While passing legislation to give loans to bad debtors and underwriting those debts with Freddie Mac was bad policy, that alone had nothing much to do with the market meltdown that occured in 2008. The implosion was purely a function of the derivatives behemoth dreamt up in Wall Street.

Then what happened is a Goldman Sachs white house needlessly bailed out AIG and the investment banks who were facing massive losses. We should never have bailed them out. We only did so on the lie that the entire world would collapse if we didn't.

[Faramir]

Russia is run by a fascist named Putin who orchestrated events to invade a Washington friendly Georgia. Georgia is one of the good guys, like Poland and other friends of the West. Putin has re-established the evil empire.

[Blaze Pascal]

Naomi Klein and her nut husband are conspiracy theorists. Their analysis flies off into so many rabbit holes, so many stunning revelations. It's just like Alex Jones, only from the Left. It doesn't hold together in a sensible way. It's the way someone on LSD would see the world. They are always revealing the truth behind the truth behind the truth, which turns out to be some Illuminati secretly pulling the strings of a duped world in order to secure an extra billion. I don't need them to tell me that my reality is a construct foisted on me by a secret conspiracy. I think that THEY are the ones acting under the influence of an illusory construct, not me.

[Julian]

Government is responsible for all of our economic woes.

It is government that has entered into numerous WTO agreements that have sent our economy abroad, has allowed the financial crisis, have grown the size of an already bloated government and civil service and swamped us with immigrants when there aren't enough jobs for the people who are already in Canada.

Who is the culprit? Short sighted compromising get re-elected promise them anything government.

[DA_Champion]

Naomi Klein and her nut husband are conspiracy theorists. Their analysis flies off into so many rabbit holes, so many stunning revelations. It's just like Alex Jones, only from the Left. It doesn't hold together in a sensible way. It's the way someone on LSD would see the world. They are always revealing the truth behind the truth behind the truth, which turns out to be some Illuminati secretly pulling the strings of a duped world in order to secure an extra billion. I don't need them to tell me that my reality is a construct foisted on me by a secret conspiracy. I think that THEY are the ones acting under the influence of an illusory construct, not me.

Please show me where Klein has referred to the Illuminati? All of her examples are well-documented.

[Alec Bachlow]

MEDIA is to blame- People trust media- Money and confidence in our system is like a religion- You keep telling the people there is no hope- and there is no God...they will give up hope and stop generating wealth through activity and energy focused on creating comfort. Media should shut up- If we did not have these spreaders of doom and gloom..Our system would run much better- Don't tell a person over and over again that the future is bleak. If you do- you ensure decline.