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Re: What happens if GOP’s voter suppression works?

Postby Blaze Pascal » 08/ 20/ 12 10:14 am

backhoe wrote:
Blaze Pascal wrote:"Voter Suppression": I wonder if the Repubs have any Robocalling up their sleeves. ;-)

it sounds like the Democraps are getting ready for some mass hysteria in case they fail to steal the election.


That's correct- there will be endless stories of "disenfranchisement"-- all without a shred of evidence- that the Mother Raping Media hive will parrot endlessly. Like they did in 2000.


I expect to see weeping victims. People died for that franchise, you know.
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Re: What happens if GOP’s voter suppression works?

Postby WestViking » 08/ 20/ 12 10:50 am

What voter suppression program? The headline suggest that there is such a thing, but refers to no evidence thereof. Why are we accepting an unproven allegation as fact?
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Re: What happens if GOP’s voter suppression works?

Postby Ogopogo » 09/ 08/ 12 10:14 pm

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On Sunday, September 15, 1963 during the Civil Rights movement in America the 16th Street Baptist Church in Birmingham, Alabama was bombed and four little girls were killed. 11-year old Denise McNair and 14-year olds, Addie Mae Collins, Carole Robertson, and Cynthia Wesley were murdered at their family church because of racism and because African Americans in the South wanted to exercise their Constitutional right to vote.

​49-years later after Denise McNair, Addie Mae Collins, Carole Robertson, Cynthia Wesley lost their innocent lives because their community wanted the right to vote, today, September 8, 2012, states have passed the Voter ID law which suppresses the rights of the poor,former prison inmates, elderly, Hispanics, and African Americans to vote in local, state, and presidentialelections. The Voter ID law also makes it more difficult for college students, the disabled, immigrants and people of color to vote.

​In this day of the viral "empty chair," the church community and the interfaith community must speak to the "empty chair" and what it represents. The "empty chair" represents invisible racism and voter suppression in America.

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​As people of faith, we must be concerned about the least of these in America. All citizens 18-years and older must have the inalienable right to vote; to ensure that the homeless have a place to live, the hungry have food to eat, all children have access to quality education, former prisoners and their families can apply to live in public housing, and the elderly and all people in American can receive healthcare.

​Thousands of people, of all cultures and religions, marched with the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr so that all people, no matter what their station in life could have the right to vote.

​Denise McNair Addie Mae Collins, Carole Robertson, Cynthia Wesley, Dr. King, Viola Liuzzo, James Chaney, Andrew Goodman, Michael Schwerner and other unnamed children, women and men died so that allpersons can experience the "American Dream." The Voter ID law dishonors the lives of children, women and men who died for the right to vote. It is time to unseat invisible racism in America.

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Re: What happens if GOP’s voter suppression works?

Postby Ogopogo » 09/ 10/ 12 8:46 pm

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Minority Voters To Be Intimidated By Polling Place Vigilantes, Report Warns

Posted: 09/10/2012 1:33 pm Updated: 09/10/2012 2:12 pm

WASHINGTON -- Concerned that a veritable army of Tea Partyers will descend on polling places in minority neighborhoods to challenge and intimidate voters on Election Day, two public interest groups on Monday called for government officials to take extra steps to protect voters' rights.

A new report from Common Cause and Demos, titled "Bullies at the Ballot Box," describes efforts by right-wing groups -- foremost among them, a Tea Party spin-off group called True the Vote -- to train as many as a million volunteers in "poll-watching."

"I think we have seen a much more coordinated and well-funded effort than we've seen in years past, and that's why it's so concerning," said Jenny Flanagan, director of voting and elections at Common Cause and one of the report's authors.

"The message behind their tactic I think is what's most concerning to us," she said, because the groups appear to be "targeting racial minorities and others who have a past of being targeted."

The report notes that True the Vote official Bill Ouren has told volunteers they should make voters feel "like driving and seeing the police following you." And the president of True the Vote coalition partner Judicial Watch has accused the Obama administration of trying to mobilize "the food stamp army" and "steal the election" with the "illegal alien vote."

True the Vote officials did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

"There is a real danger that voters will face overzealous volunteers who take the law into their own hands to target voters they deem suspect," the report concludes.

Voter intimidation at the polls would be the final act in a series of moves by various conservative organizations intended to limit participation by traditionally Democratic demographic groups, most notably minorities and students, in 2012.

Monday's report focuses on 10 swing states where it finds a mixed bag of state laws regarding such things as voter challenges before Election Day -- based on such things are returned mail -- and voter challenges on Election Day -- including limits on interference by poll watchers.

Federal law prohibits intimidation of voters, but as with the state rules, "those laws need to be enforced to be effective," Flanagan said.

The U.S. Department of Justice has not announced any special precautions for the November election. Its standard procedure is to assign election monitors and observers to polling places around the country on Election Day.

This story has been updated to note Justice Department policy on election monitors.


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WASHINGTON – Malik Zulu Shabazz, national chairman of the New Black Panther Party, stated today in a radio interview that his controversial group may deploy at voting booths in the November presidential elections, claiming such a move is needed to ensure there is no “intimidation against our people.”

The NBPP was the focus of national attention after Eric Holder’s Department of Justice dismissed voter intimidation charges against the groups leaders related to the 2008 presidential election.

During an interview on WABC Radio’s “Aaron Klein Investigative Radio,” Shabaz was asked whether his group is planning to go to U.S. polling stations in the upcoming presidential election.

Shabazz replied: “I will say that as this election comes up in November, we will consider our options. And we will consider the fact whether we will legally and lawfully go to the polls again to make sure there is no intimidation against our people, which was our intent in 2008.”

Klein asked the NBPP leader whether his group is planning to bring batons or billy clubs to any polling stations as they did in 2008.

“No sir,” Shabazz responded. “And you’re not gonna bait me into that. I know what you are here to do. And that’s not true. We will be there. I mean, if we are there. If. We are not saying we will be there or not. But whatever we will do, it will be legal and lawful under the Constitution of the United States.”

Asked about the dropping of federal charges related to the NBPP’s activities during the previous presidential election, Shabazz stated, “I would like to deny voter intimidation charges against the New Black Panther Party in 2008.”

He continued: “We were not found that we intimidated anyone, and therefore we were not charged, and that’s why we are walking free today, happy as a bird, to the [dismay] of many.”

The 2008 case centered on two NBPP members accused of standing in front of the entrance to a Philadelphia polling station in uniforms that have been described as paramilitary, with one member wielding a billy club.

According to complaints, both men standing in front of the polling station pointed at voters and shouted racial slurs, using such phrases as “white devil” and, “You’re about to be ruled by the black man, cracker.”

The interview with Klein can be heard below:

Holder’s office was accused by Justice Department insiders of racial favoritism in dropping the charges against the NBPP.

In May 2010, J. Christian Adams resigned as a Justice voting department trial attorney, citing preferences related to trying civil rights cases only when minorities were the victims.

“I was told by voting section management that cases are not going to be brought against black defendants on [behalf] of white victims,” Adams said in testimony before the Civil Rights commission.

Adams was backed up by Christopher Coates, the former head of the voting section for the Department of Justice’s Civil Rights Division. Coats had led the original investigation of the New Black Panther Party.

Coates stated in testimony, “I had people who told me point-blank that [they] didn’t come to the voting rights section to sue African-American people.”

Coats further compared the NBPP case to an earlier case from 2006, where he claimed Justice attorneys expressed anger at having to investigate Ike Brown, a black democratic politician in Mississippi accused of discriminating against white voters.

Racism, anti-white activism

The NBPP is a controversial black extremist party whose leaders are notorious for their racist statements and for leading anti-white activism.

The NBPP’s official platform states, “White man has kept us deaf, dumb and blind,” refers to the “white racist government of America,” demands black people be exempt from military service and uses the word “Jew” repeatedly in quotation marks.

Shabazz has led racially divisive protests and conferences, such as the 1998 Million Youth March, in which a few thousand Harlem youths reportedly were called upon to scuffle with police officers and speakers demanded the extermination of whites in South Africa.

The NBPP chairman was quoted at a May 2007 protest against the 400-year celebration of the settlement of Jamestown, Va., stating, “When the white man came here, you should have left him to die.”

He claimed Jews engaged in an “African holocaust,” and he has promoted the anti-Semitic urban legend that 4,000 Israelis fled the World Trade Center just prior to the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

When Shabazz was denied entry to Canada in May 2008 while trying to speak at a black action event, he blamed Jewish groups and claimed Canada “is run from Israel.”

Canadian officials justified the action stating he has an “anti-Semitic” and “anti-police” record, but some reports blamed what was termed a minor criminal history for the decision to deny him entry.
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Re: What happens if GOP’s voter suppression works?

Postby Ogopogo » 09/ 14/ 12 8:37 pm

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CNN Tees Up John Lewis to Liken Voter ID Laws to Jim Crow

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Civil rights leader Rep. John Lewis (D-Ga.) has said new voter ID laws reflect old Jim Crow laws, and CNN's Carol Costello played right into his outlandish rhetoric on Friday morning.

"Are you kind of stunned we're talking about these kinds of things in this day and age, with your history, I mean?" Costello asked the liberal congressman of the debate over voter ID laws. He answered in the affirmative and again likened voter ID laws to Jim Crow. [Video below the break. Audio here.]

"People are not being beaten, or trampled by horses or chased by police dogs, but it takes us back to another day and another period. And as Americans, we should not want to even dream about the past," he stated.

Costello had actually played devil's advocate with Lewis before her softball question, but she followed that one up with another soft question to Lewis: "Does your office get many calls from people who feel disenfranchised?"

"I would urge and encourage people all across America that they must participate, they must get out and vote, and let nothing but nothing keep them from casting their votes," he insisted.

The same congressman recklessly used an anti-Nazi statement to decry Republicans, but CNN still had no trouble teeing him up to compare the new laws to Jim Crow.

A partial transcript of the interview, which aired on CNN Newsroom on September 14 at 10:23 a.m. EDT, is as follows:

[10:23]

CAROL COSTELLO: The fight over voter ID laws is red hot in Pennsylvania, just 53 days before the Presidential election. The state's new law that requires voters to show a picture ID is now in Pennsylvania Supreme Court. At issue, whether this new requirement will keep minority and poor voters from the polls. It's a charge we've heard in Florida, Ohio, and Colorado, and something Congressman John Lewis has called a throwback to the Jim Crow south.

(...)

COSTELLO: What do you expect to happen in Pennsylvania?

(...)

COSTELLO: So I know we've been having this argument for many, many months now, but Republicans would say most of us have a picture ID, it's not hard to get one in the state of Pennsylvania. So what's the big deal?

(...)

COSTELLO: This election could come down to a few hundred votes in key areas as you know. In the key battleground state of Florida, election officials there purged 200 people it says should not be allowed to vote. If it found those people ineligible, isn't that be a good thing that they purged these people from the rolls?

(...)

COSTELLO: Are you kind of stunned we're talking about these kinds of things in this day and age, with your history, I mean?

Rep. JOHN LEWIS (D-Ga.): Well, I'm really shocked. For me, it is unreal, it is unbelievable. It may not be the literacy tests, it may not be a poll tax, it may not be asking people to count the number of bubbles on a bar of soap, or the number of jelly beans in a jar. People are not being beaten, or trampled by horses or chased by police dogs, but it takes us back to another day and another period. And as Americans, we should not want to even dream about the past.

COSTELLO: Does your office get many calls from people who feel disenfranchised?

LEWIS: Well, there are people who have called, and other reports I have heard, that people are showing up trying to participate, trying to vote without a voter ID. I would urge and encourage people all across America that they must participate, they must get out and vote, and let nothing but nothing keep them from casting their votes.
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Re: What happens if GOP’s voter suppression works?

Postby thetrident » 09/ 20/ 12 8:44 am

I think this is very disturbing. Politicians should be elected because they can win the support of the electorate, not by stopping their opponents from voting.
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Re: What happens if GOP’s voter suppression works?

Postby backhoe » 09/ 20/ 12 9:10 am

thetrident wrote:I think this is very disturbing. Politicians should be elected because they can win the support of the electorate, not by stopping their opponents from voting.


The only "vote suppression" I've seen came from the left:

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Re: What happens if GOP’s voter suppression works?

Postby Dogpatch » 09/ 20/ 12 9:26 am

How could Turzai be so sure? The Pennsylvania Department of State acknowledges that as many as 759,000 residents lack the proper ID. That’s 9.2 percent of registered voters, but the figure rises to 18 percent in heavily black Philadelphia. The law also requires that the photo IDs have expiration dates, which many student IDs do not.


Somethings wrong with the above.

- 9.2 percent of registered voters don't have proper ID? Then how in heck did they get registered in the first place? (NB. Maybe its different in the US.)

- photo IDs have expiration dates, which many student IDs do not? OK maybe its different in the US, but I'm pretty sure student IDs are renewed every year (otherwise Mary Jane pusher would always be in the schools).

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Re: What happens if GOP’s voter suppression works?

Postby SIFA » 09/ 20/ 12 11:45 am

Dogpatch wrote:
How could Turzai be so sure? The Pennsylvania Department of State acknowledges that as many as 759,000 residents lack the proper ID. That’s 9.2 percent of registered voters, but the figure rises to 18 percent in heavily black Philadelphia. The law also requires that the photo IDs have expiration dates, which many student IDs do not.


Somethings wrong with the above.

- 9.2 percent of registered voters don't have proper ID? Then how in heck did they get registered in the first place? (NB. Maybe its different in the US.)

- photo IDs have expiration dates, which many student IDs do not? OK maybe its different in the US, but I'm pretty sure student IDs are renewed every year (otherwise Mary Jane pusher would always be in the schools).

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I agree wholeheartedly with your observation.

Someone came to my door and they did not identify themselves as being a part of the Obama campaign, but made a very confusing comment about registering to vote. She stated that they had changed procedures or something of that nature and I stated that I intended to look it up. She was attempting to get me to fill something out and claimed that she lived in my neighborhood. She was not UPFRONT about being affiliated with the Obama campaign. She then gave me the site gottaregister.com which is paid for by the Obama campaign. I went to the site of the Secretary of State and found that it was much more user friendly than the site that she suggested. I just needed to find out my status. The site she recommended wanted your email address, telephone number and everything else, including whether one is a student or not. The Democrats are blowing this way out of proportion and it is all political.

This woman then inquired if I liked how the direction of the country was going, although she was very vague and I didn't find her forthcoming at all about who she represented. I stated my concerns about UNEMPLOYMENT and that it was UP and also stated my concerns about the every expanding DEFICIT. I pointed out to her my concerns about government spending and that this didn't bode well for my country or for anyone. This was not the answer that she wanted to hear. I stated that was all that I was willing to say.

As far as I'm concerned it is the Democrats who are sneaky, dirty and not forthcoming.
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Re: What happens if GOP’s voter suppression works?

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How GOP Voter Suppression Radicalized William Louis-Dreyfus, 'Seinfeld' Star's Mogul Dad

Posted: 10/04/2012 7:14 am EDT Updated: 10/04/2012 3:09 pm EDT

Until recently, William Louis-Dreyfus was just another retired multimillionaire, giving his art collection away to charity and watching his actress daughter Julia on TV. He followed politics, but not to the point of actually doing much about it.

"I've never gotten involved in that way," the 80-year-old businessman told HuffPost on Wednesday from his home in New York's Westchester County.

But when Louis-Dreyfus learned that some Americans were trying to block others Americans from voting, he got seriously riled up.

"If something impedes the right of the people to vote, I can't think of anything more lethal to happen to our basic principles," he said. "It's a damn outrage, and I don't understand why everyone -- Republican and Democrat alike -- are not shocked to their shoe tops."

So when New York Times readers opened the front section of the newspaper Tuesday, they found a full-page ad in which Louis-Dreyfus announced his $1 million donation to fight voter suppression, explained why, and challenged his fellow wealthy Americans to do likewise.

It was headlined, "A Call to Arms to the Wealthy to Protect the Right to Vote."

The ad ran amid growing national awareness of the Republican voter suppression campaign and its possible effects on the November election. On the same day, a Pennsylvania judge temporarily blocked a strict voter identification law that opponents worried would have disenfranchised tens of thousands of voters -- many of them minorities -- and might even have swung a swing state.

Over the last decade and especially since President Barack Obama's election in 2008, many Republican lawmakers have focused on making it harder to vote. The GOP takeover of several state houses in 2010 was followed by 19 new laws requiring voters to show photo IDs at the polls, rolling back early voting, and impeding the registration of new voters. Similarly, Republicans have pushed to purge voter rolls and are preparing to send pollwatchers to certain precincts.

While the GOP insists its goal is to deter voter fraud, there is no evidence that voter fraud is a significant problem in the U.S. Selective disenfranchisement, by contrast, is a historic problem. Democrats are concerned that the GOP's efforts will have the practical effect of blocking or dissuading people of limited means, minorities, students and the elderly from voting, thereby reducing the number of Democratic votes.

Louis-Dreyfus stepped down five years ago from running the global commodities giant that bears his last name. Not a major political contributor by mogul standards, he has primarily supported Democrats, though not exclusively. He insisted that, contrary to a 6-year-old Forbes ranking, he is not a billionaire.

And he entirely dismisses the voter fraud argument. "I'm not only not convinced," he said, "it seems to me that the other side is making that argument because it can't really say the truth."

His galvanizing political moment came, he said, when he considered the possibility that voter suppression "might result in Romney's being elected in circumstances that were in effect fraudulent. And it occurred to me that was as serious a result for our country as any I could think of."

As long as nobody's voting rights are violated, "whoever gets elected is fine with me," he said.

On the other hand: "If people get elected by other means, then we might as well have the government carry guns against us. If you think about it, it's very, very upsetting. It scares me to death."

The New York Times ad ended with a call for donations to nonpartisan voter protection organizations, and included the contact information for one of them, the Brennan Center for Justice at New York University.

Several hundred people contacted the Brennan Center after the ad ran, Louis-Dreyfus said, including one person who contributed $10,000.

So far, no other tycoons have signed up, but he isn't disappointed, he said. He just hopes he's sparked some discussion -- and some outrage. "If one doesn't get excited about this, what's it going to take to get one excited?" he asked. "What's surprising about this is that there isn't more awareness and more outrage."

He doesn't understand that, he said. "I think we are a little bit complacent in this country with regard to our system," he said. "And the press, if you don't mind my saying, doesn't do a splendid job in underlining the real facts."

The part of the Times ad that seemed to resonate most with HuffPost commenters on Tuesday was Louis-Dreyfus' acknowledgement that "[w]e who have the blessing of our millions" have a particular stake in preserving democracy.

One commenter wrote: "At least some of the 1% have honor and worry about true American values. There is hope for us yet."

Louis-Dreyfus has a lot to say on the subject of wealth. "If you are rich in this country, it is a consequence of a number of things -- surely your talent and your hard work, but it's also a consequence of the political society we live in," he said.

"It's always been so that with money comes power, and there's probably very little we can do about it. But if on top of that particular fact we organize to interfere with the right of the people to vote, it must mean the wealthy don't feel they have enough power."

On a personal level, Louis-Dreyfus is working to end the cycle of poverty by donating works from his private art collection to the Harlem's Children Zone, educator and activist Geoffrey Canada's project aimed at helping poor children get a good education.

But fighting voter suppression required a more public act.

His daughter -- who famously played Elaine in "Seinfeld," and now the "Veep" on HBO -- helped edit the Times ad, he said.

She also issued her own statement after the ad ran, saying: "One of the proudest aspects of this nation's history has been the expansion of the franchise -- once just the province of white, landed men, it now belongs to all adults. Those who seek to take the vote away from American citizens stand against history. I'm proud instead to stand with my father."
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