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Re: Condi Rice as VP: You Have to be Kidding

Postby Red Green » 07/ 14/ 12 9:05 am

Mark to Mitt: 'Just pick a damn conservative'
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by: Jeff Poor
Friday, July 13, 2012

Mark to Mitt: 'Just pick a damn conservative'
Conservative radio host Mark Levin said Thursday, July 12, that it's a "bad idea" for GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney to consider Condoleeza Rice as his running mate. Photo Credit:AP
On his Thursday radio show, conservative talker Mark Levin had a visceral reaction to the possibility reported early in the day of a Mitt Romney-Condoleezza Rice Republican ticket this November.

Although her name is mentioned as “near the top of the list” according to the Drudge Report, it would be a tactical mistake to select her, Levin said.

“This is bad politics,” Levin said. “Not only will Romney be defending Bain up through the election, now he’s going to have to be defending Bush and Bush’s policies right up through the election."

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Re: Condi Rice as VP: You Have to be Kidding

Postby Brown envelope » 07/ 14/ 12 9:17 am

Charles J. White wrote:The fact that the Mormon church didn't want Black people in their "church" as late as 1978, and the fact that he ties his dog down on the roof of his car, and that he likes singing America the Beautiful instead of something more relevant to the public at large, and was a bully as a young adult and teenager turns me off of Romney. He strikes me as being out of touch with most of America. Perhaps the Republicans made the wrong choice by endorsing the clown that he is? I mean if he loses to Obama, Romney will go down as the biggest arse to come out of the Republican Party. Add to the fact that is as big a flop flopper as Obama, perhaps even more so, and it doesn’t look good. By the way, is Mitt really his first name, or is that some sort of religious thing that me and most of North America don’t understand?



Oh Charles, as a koolaid drinking liberal I wouldn't expect you to want any other outcome than have 'The One' get another four years.

It should be Rubio or bust for VP.
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Re: Condi Rice as VP: You Have to be Kidding

Postby RedDog » 07/ 14/ 12 9:21 am

How about Bobby Jindal (Louisiana Governor) or J.C. Watts (former football star and Oklahoma Congressman)? Both are visible minorities and both would slaughter Zero or Biden at anything. Both have also been floated as possible GOP Presidential candidates down the road.
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Re: Condi Rice as VP: You Have to be Kidding

Postby Red Green » 07/ 14/ 12 10:17 am

Rubio is the GOP equivalent Obama: Instant star status for no real reason. He's a hard core Neo-Con and from Florida so Mittens probably likes Rubio with the exception of him being an apostate Mormon. The Neo-Cons would like that pick, as would maybe some of the conservatives but the liberty wing of the party would walk away in disgust. So it depends on how bad Mittens wants to pull in the liberty crowd and whether he needs them or not.

JC Watts would be a bad choice. He's been out of the spotlight and he never was articulate. Had he not been black, he probably would have been pretty anonymous in the HoR GOP. Jindal would be an interesting pick. I'm not familiar with his politics but he comes across as a reasonable individual when interviewed.

The problem with Mittens is he is a losing candidate. Like the last losing candidate the GOP ran (McCain), he is hoping the VP spot will excite the base in the way he can't. In the end, it probably won't matter other than setting up the prospective VP for the nomination in 2016.
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Re: Condi Rice as VP: You Have to be Kidding

Postby CrunchyCon » 07/ 14/ 12 12:34 pm

Faramir wrote:Colin Powell is a liberal. All Condi brings is her gender and the color of her skin. What conservative credentials does she have?


I like Condi as a person and as a secretary of state. She is an extremely classy, intelligent and loyal person. However, I cannot support her as veep because she's pro-abortion. For me, this one issue is a deal-breaker, especially with Romney at the top of the ticket.
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Re: Condi Rice as VP: You Have to be Kidding

Postby DA_Champion » 07/ 14/ 12 12:36 pm

I'll be very impressed if Romney picks someone of knowledge and aptitude, like Condi Rice.

I was afraid he'd pick a clueless blowhard and sloganist like Marco Rubio.
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Re: Condi Rice as VP: You Have to be Kidding

Postby CrunchyCon » 07/ 14/ 12 12:41 pm

Red Green wrote:Rubio is the GOP equivalent Obama: Instant star status for no real reason.


It could never be Rubio unless the party publicly forced him on Romney. Keep in mind that Romney is not Huntsman -- Mormonism is Mitt's inner moral and political compass. Thus Mitt could not accept Rubio, an apostate Mormon, without violating Mormon teaching.
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Re: Condi Rice as VP: You Have to be Kidding

Postby Alec Bachlow » 07/ 14/ 12 12:45 pm

CrunchyCon wrote:
Faramir wrote:Colin Powell is a liberal. All Condi brings is her gender and the color of her skin. What conservative credentials does she have?


I like Condi as a person and as a secretary of state. She is an extremely classy, intelligent and loyal person. However, I cannot support her as veep because she's pro-abortion. For me, this one issue is a deal-breaker, especially with Romney at the top of the ticket.

Got that right- She is loyal...She stood by Bush with out flinching or even cringing in shame...oh- so she is pro-abortion? Did not know that- so as a representative of her own species she has no survival skill or instinct. NEXT.
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Re: Condi Rice as VP: You Have to be Kidding

Postby Red Green » 07/ 14/ 12 12:48 pm

CrunchyCon wrote:
Red Green wrote:Rubio is the GOP equivalent Obama: Instant star status for no real reason.


It could never be Rubio unless the party publicly forced him on Romney. Keep in mind that Romney is not Huntsman -- Mormonism is Mitt's inner moral and political compass. Thus Mitt could not accept Rubio, an apostate Mormon, without violating Mormon teaching.


You're probably right although I think back to Mitt's pro-abortion past and wonder how far he is willing to stray from Mormon positions. Although I think a public policy is different to Mormons than business / personal relations.

Do you think he would have the hutzpa to name another Mormon to the VP position?
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Re: Condi Rice as VP: You Have to be Kidding

Postby Red Green » 07/ 14/ 12 12:49 pm

DA_Champion wrote:I'll be very impressed if Romney picks someone of knowledge and aptitude, like Condi Rice.

I was afraid he'd pick a clueless blowhard and sloganist like Marco Rubio.


As evidenced by her tenure in the Dubya administration, her aptitude is greatly overrated.
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Re: Condi Rice as VP: You Have to be Kidding

Postby CrunchyCon » 07/ 14/ 12 12:54 pm

Red Green wrote:You're probably right although I think back to Mitt's pro-abortion past and wonder how far he is willing to stray from Mormon positions. Although I think a public policy is different to Mormons that business / personal relations.


Keep in mind that Mormons will change their doctrine if it is politically expedient to do so. They also lack the philosophical background of classical Christianity. So Romney's pro-abortion stance as governor is not as big a deal for Mormons as John Kerry's pro-abortionism was for Catholics. Whereas the "personally pro-life and pro-life within my religious community, but politically and publicly pro-choice" is an unacceptable position for Catholics, it's an acceptable position for Mormons.

Do you think he would have the hutzpa to name another Mormon to the VP position?


Probably not, but there is a huge difference between a naming a non-Mormon and naming a former Mormon.
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Re: Condi Rice as VP: You Have to be Kidding

Postby CrunchyCon » 07/ 14/ 12 12:58 pm

Alec Bachlow wrote:oh- so she is pro-abortion?


Yep. That's about the only issue over which she publicly disagreed with Bush. And given Romney's track record of $50 abortions and fundraising for Planned Parenthood, I've pretty much concluded that this election is a wash for social conservatives.
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Re: Condi Rice as VP: You Have to be Kidding

Postby DA_Champion » 07/ 14/ 12 1:05 pm

Red Green wrote:
DA_Champion wrote:I'll be very impressed if Romney picks someone of knowledge and aptitude, like Condi Rice.

I was afraid he'd pick a clueless blowhard and sloganist like Marco Rubio.


As evidenced by her tenure in the Dubya administration, her aptitude is greatly overrated.


Romney has to pick a Veep candidate from the Republican establishment.

Beggars can't be choosers.
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Re: Condi Rice as VP: You Have to be Kidding

Postby Red Green » 07/ 14/ 12 1:36 pm

DA_Champion wrote:
Red Green wrote:
DA_Champion wrote:I'll be very impressed if Romney picks someone of knowledge and aptitude, like Condi Rice.

I was afraid he'd pick a clueless blowhard and sloganist like Marco Rubio.


As evidenced by her tenure in the Dubya administration, her aptitude is greatly overrated.


Romney has to pick a Veep candidate from the Republican establishment.

Beggars can't be choosers.


She's the perhaps the worst candidate, unless he's really just accepted the fact he is going to lose. As Red Dog brought up, someone like Jindal would be acceptable to the establishment without all the baggage that Condi brings with her.
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Re: Condi Rice as VP: You Have to be Kidding

Postby Angleland » 07/ 14/ 12 4:26 pm

Condi is not the worst choice but I have other concerns. Christ Jack@$$ will be flapping his big donkey ears and big donkey lips going on an on about Boooosh.

If Mittens doesn't start going on the offensive he is going to be sputtering 'Gee I'm sorry for any mistakes Bush made by I'll try to do better...'during the course of this campaign. McPain showed how well playing defence agains Christ Jack@$$ works out.
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