US politics

[kathaksung]

Vermont, the home of braves and the land of free.

The people there still have the courage which many Americans have lost.

All towns in Vermont vote to impeach Bush!

A single Vermont community's call for the impeachment of President Bush turned into a chorus Tuesday night, with town meetings across southern Vermont echoing the demand that Congress act to remove the president

http://www.thenation.com

( I was blocked to post by technic problem on this site for months. This is a test to see if they withdran the block)

[hdm]

( I was blocked to post by technic problem on this site for months. This is a test to see if they withdran the block)

Welcome back <b>kathaksung</b>.

Many of us ran into the same problem here.

See, it wasn't the Feds after all.

rgds, hdm

[styky]

kathaksung is back

I have missed the endless saga and wondered what had become of you.

As a moderator I know of no block against you..... very suspicious

[kathaksung]

kathaksung is back

I have missed the endless saga and wondered what had become of you.

As a moderator I know of no block against you..... very suspicious

It was probably done by the surveillence team. I think my computer is connected to a Feds' server which controls and filters all messages to my computer.

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371. The revenge of D.O.J. (1/7/06)

Bush is only a puppet. When his illegal activity was revealed, his master jumped out to protect. Instead of investigating Bush's unconstitutional action, Justice Department starts to probe the leak of spying program.

It seems they assume nobody knows that US government is eavesdropping on its citizens. As a matter of fact, it's a common sense that FBI and other intelligence are spying on us in a broad range. We know there are Carnivore, Echelon..... There are so many information about secret eavesdropping. Have you ever seen the investigation from D.O.J.? The money spent on secret spying is huge. Are these enormous organization only deal with a few Al Qaide? It's a joke to think that Al Qaida won't alert that they may under surveillance if they communicate with an electronic system. Even innocent Muslim and non Muslim Americans would think their communication be intercepted by big brother.

What the leak of spying program will hurt? It only proves the long existing suspicion of secret spying is true. That Bush did something illegal.(unconstitutional).

The following is an information known by public. The time is Jan. 1st 2001. Such kind of knowledge was common sense. Similar information were popular in internet then. But it didn't point to Bush and D.O.J.. So nothing happened. Now D.O.J. jump their feet on the leak of "secret spying". Is that funny?

Re: SPYING ON US
BY JIM WILSON
Illustration by Paul DiMare
Published on: January 1, 2001

The secret is out. Two powerful intelligence gathering tools that the United States created to eavesdrop on Soviet leaders and to track KGB spies are now being used to monitor Americans. One system, known as Echelon, intercepts and analyzes telephone calls, faxes and e-mail sent to and from the United States. The other system, Tempest, can secretly read the displays on personal computers, cash registers and automatic teller machines, from as far as a half mile away. Although the inner workings of both systems remain classified, fueling exaggerated claims about their capabilities on Internet sites, credible detail has at last begun to emerge. It comes chiefly from foreign governments that began investigating American surveillance activities after discovering that the Echelon system had been used to spy on their defense contractors. From those documents it is possible to obtain the first accurate view of the threats high-tech spying poses to our right to privacy. We think you will agree it also creates a real and present threat to our freedom.

http://popularmechanics.com/science/mil ... ing_on_us/

[styky]

Sounds like you have been reading to much over at rense.com

[hdm]

I think my computer is connected to a Feds' server which controls and filters all messages to my computer.

On a related note...

<a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,181243,00.html"><b>Father of LSD Turns 100</b></a>

Tuesday, January 10, 2006
Associated Press

GENEVA — LSD is an unlikely subject for a 100th birthday party. Yet the Swiss chemist who discovered the mind-altering drug and was its first human guinea pig is celebrating his centenary Wednesday — in good health and with plans to attend an international seminar on the hallucinogenic.

"I had wonderful visions," Albert Hofmann said, recalling his first accidental consumption of the drug.

"I sat down at home on the divan and started to dream," he told the Swiss television network SF DRS. "What I was thinking appeared in colors and in pictures. It lasted for a couple of hours and then it disappeared."

Hofmann, who also had bad experiences with the drug, continues to insist it should be legalized for medical treatment, particularly in psychiatric research. But LSD's reputation has been as turbulent as some acid trips.

The drug earned a bad reputation amid fatalities associated with hallucinations and reports of "flashbacks" — the recurrence of hallucinations when not taking the drug.

<a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,181243,00.html">[continued...]</a>

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Albert Hoffman</center>

[kathaksung]

406. Take over CIA (5/15/06)

Eight months ago, DOJ has activated a battle to take over the Supreme Court. They successfully sent two of their agents, John Roberts and Samuel Aliot, to the seats of Supreme Court Justice.

Now they are targeting CIA. FBI searched CIA No. 3 leader Foggo's home and office on 5/12. CIA Chief Porter Goss resigned in advance. The leader of CIA dropped in the trap set up by FBI.

Quote, "CIA boss Goss is cooked
Tied to contractor's poker parties -hints of bribes & women
BY RICHARD SISK and JAMES GORDON MEEK
DAILY NEWS WASHINGTON BUREAU

WASHINGTON - CIA Director Porter Goss abruptly resigned yesterday amid allegations that he and a top aide may have attended Watergate poker parties where bribes and prostitutes were provided to a corrupt congressman.

Intelligence and law enforcement sources said solid evidence had yet to emerge that Goss also went to the parties, but Goss and Foggo share a fondness for poker and expensive cigars, and the FBI investigation was continuing.

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/ ... 0961c.html

Scandal is always a weapon FBI used to blackmail, to hit its target. They set up traps with its informants or undercover agents. (see "373. Extortion by scandal (1/12/06) 374. A covert totalitarian (1/12/06)")

Former President Nixon resigned from Watergate scandal. The "deep throat", concealed 30 years, now is revealed a FBI agent. Clinton and former Congressman Gary Condit were both hit hard by scandal of personal affair. The interns involved in the case, Lewinsky and Chandra Levy, were both from Jewish family. We know Israel tried to influence on US politicians through their aids. The recent Supreme Court nominations was fulfilled by the attack on GOP leader Frist (in Senate) and Tom Delay (in Congress) and on other GOP lawmakers by Abramoff scandal. Abramoff, I think, is an undercover agent who used to corrupt the law makers so these politicians could be extorted.

Why do I think so? Because Abramoff acted like a financial distributor. He not only offered financial aid to political campaign, he also offered financial aid to 911 hijackers. 3 or 4 hijackers (include Atta) visited casino ship SunCruze before the attack. Abramoff ran that casino company. And those 911 hijackers, at least some of them, were undercover former FBI agents and FBI informants. (see "403. Beware a global "terror" attack (4/30/06)")

In US, when a scandal happened, there used to be a purpose. So when Porter Goss resigns to a scandal, we know this time the purpose of DOJ is to take over CIA.

295. Who controls D.O.J.? (3/7/05)

Former President Kennedy was assassinated. Former President Clinton was impeached. All these revealed that even in top position, US politicians are under the control of intelligence. They were under the surveillance. They were extorted, blackmailed by intelligence. If they disobeyed, then they were punished by scandal, or even been assassinated.

Former President Nixon was almost impeached. He lost his post in oval office in early 70's. The formal reason was he lied to cover up a tape which might reveal his awareness of illegal campaign activity. But lie and dirty campaign activity were common among high ranking politicians. It was only an excuse. Then what was the real purpose?

In March 2002, a news helped me resolved several puzzles. It was a tape of Nixon's conversation with former treasury secretary Connally. Re:

Quote, "Nixon Defended Envoy's Groping
1972 Tapes Also Reveal Talk of a Justice Dept. 'Full of Jews'

By George Lardner Jr.
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, March 1, 2002; Page A02

"Oh! Oh, God!" Nixon said with a sigh. "It erodes our confidence, our strength. They're untrustworthy. . . . Look at the Justice Department, it's full of Jews."
"Any place of power," Connally agreed. "SEC used to be -- all of them, those lawyers."
"Listen, the lawyers in government are damn Jews," Nixon said.
Both men agreed that Nixon should try to reduce the Jewish influence in a second term. Nixon told Connally on May 15 that he wanted no more than 2 percent of the government's political appointees to be Jewish, in proportion to the population. He later said 10 percent would be acceptable, "but certainly not 30 or 40 percent."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/ar ... Feb28.html

I then knew who control Justice department and why Nixon lost his job.

Nixon realized that there was a disproportion of government political appointees to the population. He thought it was not for the interest of US and tried to change that situation. He faced an impeach and had to resign before he could do it.

Now I know why Sharon said, "Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it." - Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, to Shimon Peres, October 8th, 2001

Israel controls D.O.J.. D.O.J. controls FBI. And FBI keep Americans under surveillance, include Presidents.

[hdm]

re: <b>kathaksung</b> - 17May06 3:24 pm

Now I know why Sharon said, "Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it." - Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, to Shimon Peres, October 8th, 2001

Actually, <b>kathaksung</b>, you've got your facts wrong again. There is absolutely <i>no</i> verification that Mr. Sharon said any such thing.

The supposed quote above -- which appears with stunning regularity on neo-Nazi and Islamist extremist websites -- is thus unsubstantiated at best, and a complete fabrication at worst.

See: http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_conte ... article=34

... and of all people, I thought you would surely be able to spot a hoax...

rgds, hdm

[kathaksung]

re: <b>kathaksung</b> - 17May06 3:24 pm

Now I know why Sharon said, "Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it." - Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, to Shimon Peres, October 8th, 2001

Actually, <b>kathaksung</b>, you've got your facts wrong again. There is absolutely <i>no</i> verification that Mr. Sharon said any such thing.

The supposed quote above -- which appears with stunning regularity on neo-Nazi and Islamist extremist websites -- is thus unsubstantiated at best, and a complete fabrication at worst.

See: http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_conte ... article=34

... and of all people, I thought you would surely be able to spot a hoax...

rgds, hdm

Actually, the facts (reality) proves the quote of Sharon is correct. Also, there is strong reason that Israel government and its accessaries deliberately to discredit it as we saw it here. They are afraid to let more people knowing it.

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407. Take over DOD (5/20/06)

People think the Iraq war was promoted by a group whose name is "Neocon". Among them are: Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Feith, Perle and other hawks. But I think it's not a group but two. Cheney and Rumsfeld are GOP conservatives who work for the interest of military industry. They control DOD. The others belong to a Zionist group who are loyal to their motherland - Israel. They control DOJ. Although one group eyes on the oil in Iraq and the other one values the security of Israel, Iraq war would fit their demand both. In common interest, they walked together. We saw Bush was authorized the war power in October 2002 by both Parties. The bill was passed through under the pressure of a DC sniper shooting spree which I think was done by DOJ.

Though the Iraq is occupied, the power struggle between the two groups never stops. The latest one is the battle for the CIA. The other one is the battle for the DOD which lasts for more than two years.

In early May 2004, a bunch of torture pictures were revealed to the world. That was Abu Ghurayb abusing. US army was humiliated. Rumsfeld was under attack. But he refused to resign. As I have said, there was always a purpose behind a scandal. This one was an attempt to take over DOD.

Sometime later, in a quiet transference, former Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz went for another job in World Bank. He likely would have been Secretary of Denfense if Rumsfeld had resigned. GOP Conservative realized he was a threat to Rumsfeld after Abu Ghurayb scandal and made a transference.

The Abu Ghurayb torture pictures should be another work of the Feds. They infiltrated into the prison guard system and organized this revelation. Or they have been there already as intelligence officers. The event which led me to think the Abu Ghurayb scandal was a DOJ"s plot was another event: Nick Berg's beheading tape.

Berg's beheading tape was released on May 11, less then a week after the picture releasing of Abu Ghurayb. In timing, it could be the work done by the same special team who produced the torture scandal. Many comments in Internet pointed out that the beheading tape was done inside the Abu Ghurayb. (by the room background, orange prisoner jacket, chair. When the doubt became strong, Bush suggested to tear down the Abu Ghurayb. A move I thought to demolish the evidence.)

Each case has its motive. The motive of beheading case is obvious too: Muslim are savages. It resembles the principle of Northwood Operation: "Casualty lists in U.S. newspapers would cause a helpful wave of indignation."
From the view point of propaganda, who benefits from it?

I also think Nick Berg was an informant of Feds. There was information that Nick Berg knew Moussaoui. His computer password even was used by Moussaoui. What is the chance in mathematical occasion? Less than the chance to be hit by a thunder.

I alleged OKC bombing was done by the Feds in their first attempt to get the police power of Patriot Act. I alleged 911 was a government inside job. I think Moussaoui was a government prepared witness to prove 911 was done by Al Qaida not by the Feds.

Now we saw:
Abramoff was the major role in a political scandal. He related to 911 hijackers. (see #406)
Moussaoui was in OKC. He knew Nick Berg. He was the only "witness" of 911 attack.
Nick Berg was in OKC. He knew Moussaoui. He was in a beheading tape to vilify Muslim.

The spy world is big. Feds infiltrates every corner in the country.
The spy world is also small. The big cases are that much. Where agents and informants met.

[Young Tory]

Who is kathaksung? What is the big deal about him/her? Is he a paleo-con or a liberal?

[Salty Bob]

FD's resident nutbar. Mind you, in his/her/its posts, there's an occassional nugget if you have the time or inclination to look for it. But by and large, they're taxing in the extremis.

[bulldog905]

I do think the Israeli lobby is a reality, but I have checked out that supposed Sharon quote extensively, and I believe it is ficticious.

Only Nazi, Arab, and such sites use it.

There is no reliable source that confirms this was ever said.

But the whooper about Iran planning to make the Jews wear a yellow badge was the same deal.

When it comes to ANYTHING to do with the Mid East, you have to consider the source it came from.

[styky]

Who is kathaksung? What is the big deal about him/her? Is he a paleo-con or a liberal?

kathaksung is our warning indicator for all things askew within the walls of government in the US.

Watch and take note he/she has her/his finger on the pulse of the nation.

[markusprime]

He's a anti-US chinese chicom supporter I think. Sorry Beijing and the CCP suck.

[hdm]

re: <b>kathaksung</b> - 26May06 5:57 pm

re: <b>kathaksung</b> - 17May06 3:24 pm

Now I know why Sharon said, "Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it." - Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, to Shimon Peres, October 8th, 2001

Actually, <b>kathaksung</b>, you've got your facts wrong again. There is absolutely <i>no</i> verification that Mr. Sharon said any such thing.

The supposed quote above -- which appears with stunning regularity on neo-Nazi and Islamist extremist websites -- is thus unsubstantiated at best, and a complete fabrication at worst.

See: http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_conte ... article=34

... and of all people, I thought you would surely be able to spot a hoax...

rgds, hdm

Actually, the facts (reality) proves the quote of Sharon is correct.

If this alleged quote is "reality" as you choose to call it, <b>kathaksung</b>, then please be so good as to furnish a primary source.

Just name the person who insists he/she personally heard Mr. Sharon say it.

If you are unable to locate any supporting evidence for your allegation, you should consider questioning its authenticity.

Good luck...

Also, there is strong reason that Israel government and its accessaries deliberately to discredit it as we saw it here. They are afraid to let more people knowing it.

I find that lies and baseless allegations tend to collapse under their own weight.

rgds, hdm