Eyewitness: 4 Man Team Behind Sikh Temple Shooting (Videos)

[backhoe]

Kathaksung II

Yep.

[Hubert Mitchell]

Video ( Details Details Details):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... qQ5M5Xx9Rk

[fourhorses]

security cameras in the temple will tell a story

jury's out

[Hubert Mitchell]

security cameras in the temple will tell a story

jury's out

If we see them, remember Oklahoma City lost all the cameras from all the surrounding buildings for years, and then only had one shown years on that was heavily edited. Same with the Pentagon as all the cameras were taken from all the surrounding buildings too. Don't hold your breathe!

[Misha]

No offence, but one doesn't have to look for conspiracies to find a disturbing growth in state reach and power. Just take a look at the equipment cops are sporting these days. Do you really think that there's a plot behind all this that is taking down cameras? Hell, they're the ones who have put up the cameras.

[fourhorses]

security cameras in the temple will tell a story

jury's out

If we see them, remember Oklahoma City lost all the cameras from all the surrounding buildings for years, and then only had one shown years on that was heavily edited. Same with the Pentagon as all the cameras were taken from all the surrounding buildings too. Don't hold your breathe!

dig in to how the shooter died
bullets may be same caliber as cop's
what was the range
if there were other shooters, did they take him down instead of the cop

[fourhorses]

Exclusive: Interview With Professor Who Extensively Studied Alleged Wisconsin Mass Killer


Posted: 08/07/2012 9:46 am


Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism Advisory Board member and University of Nebraska at Omaha Criminology professor Pete Simi had extensive long term contact with alleged Wisconsin mass killer Wade Michael Page when he was conducting a multi-year study of the hate rock music scene in Southern California. Page was a prominent figure in the hate rock world who had links to different hate groups. Dr. Simi recently co-authored (with Robert Futrell, University of Nevada, Las Vegas) the book American Swastika: Inside the White Power Movement's Hidden Spaces of Hate. His research on extremist movements has been funded by the National Institute of Justice, Department of Homeland Security, and the Harry Frank Guggenheim Foundation. The interview was conducted this morning by Center director Prof. Brian Levin, who has also studied hate rock and was formerly the Associate Director of the Southern Poverty Law Center's Klanwatch and Militia Task Force in the 1990s. Both will appear on MSNBC's Hardball with Chris Matthews this evening at 7PM EST

read on ....
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brian-lev ... 51181.html
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just too convenient
looks like a set up
just saying ...

[Peter O'Donnell]

I imagine there are some cases where government has set up events to help them shape public opinion. Whether any one situation is among those or not, is always difficult to say. It is disturbing to keep running into evidence that mass shooters have been in "programs" before going off to do their bad deeds. At some point, this pattern suggests that the programs may be more to blame than we might suppose. If all these shrinks are so competent, why aren't more of these individuals red-flagged and unable to buy guns? This seems odd to me, but I suppose the random factor of human evil can explain some of the events. I don't discount human error when it comes to selling the wrong person a weapon.

The bottom line, however, is that we need to be very distrustful of what governments tell us, and what they plan, because they are not serving us at all, they are serving elites, patrons and special interest groups. What else would explain their frequently irrational behaviour? Perhaps our governments need to be placed in some of those "programs" but I would suggest conservative shrinks, if any can be found.

[Hubert Mitchell]

I imagine there are some cases where government has set up events to help them shape public opinion. Whether any one situation is among those or not, is always difficult to say. It is disturbing to keep running into evidence that mass shooters have been in "programs" before going off to do their bad deeds. At some point, this pattern suggests that the programs may be more to blame than we might suppose. If all these shrinks are so competent, why aren't more of these individuals red-flagged and unable to buy guns? This seems odd to me, but I suppose the random factor of human evil can explain some of the events. I don't discount human error when it comes to selling the wrong person a weapon.

The bottom line, however, is that we need to be very distrustful of what governments tell us, and what they plan, because they are not serving us at all, they are serving elites, patrons and special interest groups. What else would explain their frequently irrational behaviour? Perhaps our governments need to be placed in some of those "programs" but I would suggest conservative shrinks, if any can be found.

A very reasonable and fair assessment. Each of these shrinks have ties to the military or Pentagon, and we are supposed to think nothing of it.

No offence, but one doesn't have to look for conspiracies to find a disturbing growth in state reach and power. Just take a look at the equipment cops are sporting these days. Do you really think that there's a plot behind all this that is taking down cameras? Hell, they're the ones who have put up the cameras.- Misha

You are quite right of course. Good points.

[Hubert Mitchell]

security cameras in the temple will tell a story

jury's out

Surveillance Cameras Turned Off During Sikh Temple Shooting

Questions as to whether there were multiple shooters involved in the Sikh temple massacre are likely to remain unanswered given the fact that surveillance cameras covering the property were turned off at the time of the incident.

According to NPR’s Dina Temple-Raston, who spoke with FBI Special Agent Teresa Carlson, “There was no video in the temple itself. Apparently, their surveillance camera wasn’t on.”

Why the camera was turned off during what one would expect to be the temple’s busiest time, a religious service on a Sunday, has not been explained.

The absence of video footage of the event makes it impossible to corroborate multiple eyewitness accounts attesting to the fact that more than one individual carried out the shootings

Speaking with the Associated Press, an eyewitness stated, “Between ten and ten-thirty, four white males who were dressed darkly, dressed in all black clothing, came in and opened fire on our congregation.”

Temple member Amardeep Kaleka, whose mother and father were injured victims in the shooting, also told WISN that his parents said there were “multiple shooters, multiple people” and that the attack was “very well coordinated.”

Kaleka added that his father saw “multiple shooters of caucasian descent.”

An ITN News report also quoted the niece of one of the temple members who said, “An unknown number of gunmen had walked into the kitchen of the Sikh temple and opened fire.”

Another man at the scene told Sky News, “I think they had multiple shooters.”

In addition, the Chairman of the temple stated that the day before the attack there were a “few suspicious men seen on Temple premises,” again clearly suggesting the involvement of more than one person

Link:
http://www.infowars.com/surveillance-ca ... -shooting/

It must be some kind of record now for every important terrorist attack the cameras go out. Oklahoma. Sikh temple, Batman Attack, Pentagon, all of the Pentagon's neighbour's buildings, Building 7( one of the most fortified buildings in all of NY as it housed all the important agencies.)

It's a funny old world when despite ever growing totalitarianism government of all things we still have all the security system cameras go out whenever there's an important event. Blind support for the DHS is now all emotion, as anyone who held on to evidence must see that Fast & Furious and this disappearing cameras footage is total bogus to the core. Eyewitnesses are many and yet the media, our local state brownosers, don't even bother to explain away these facts and just attack the messengers again and again.

[Hubert Mitchell]

Hank Williams Jr. Says Obama ‘staged’ Sikh shooting

Hank Williams Jr has become the second musician in as many weeks to accuse Barack Obama of plotting to destroy the United States. Just days after Megadeth frontman Dave Mustaine claimed Obama had “staged” this month’s shooting at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin.

Meanwhile, Megadeth frontman Dave Mustaine, claims Obama is hiring assassins to help pass gun-control legislation. “My president is trying to pass a gun ban, so he’s staging all of these murders,” Mustaine said at a concert in Singapore. “Like the Fast and Furious thing down at the border, and Aurora, Colorado, all the people that were killed there and now the beautiful people at the Sikh temple … I don’t know where I’m gonna live if America keeps going the way it’s going because it looks like it’s turning into Nazi America.”

Link:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/hank-willia ... oting.html

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/08/21/h ... -shooting/

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