Oil sands ‘tremendous’ benefit to Canada, but need proper re

[Brown envelope]

So I get it- a few big shots get the money and the rest of Canada will not really benefit..sounds like a plan.

If the pipeline builds itself and the oil somehow magically delivers itself to other countries you might have a point.

This whole pipeline/Oil sands issue has showed what a pathetic bunch of twits this country has in the media and in Ottawa. You would think in this economy, and with Europe on the fast track to armegedon, people would be applauding the pipeline and doing everything they can to support it....but we don't.

[Alec Bachlow]

So I get it- a few big shots get the money and the rest of Canada will not really benefit..sounds like a plan.

If the pipeline builds itself and the oil somehow magically delivers itself to other countries you might have a point.

This whole pipeline/Oil sands issue has showed what a pathetic bunch of twits this country has in the media and in Ottawa. You would think in this economy, and with Europe on the fast track to armegedon, people would be applauding the pipeline and doing everything they can to support it....but we don't.

Maybe our internationally minded leaders don't have any real national survival skills. I am not popular in view of Canadian oil..I would rather see our oil companies make a bit less and use OUR oil for Canadian consumption - with some sales to the U.S. Protectionism is not a bad thing- Eventually we will have to do it- We were protectionists with our banks..which worked out very well..

The pipe should be built...........and as I mentioned a long time ago- Let the companies use the finest material..the best labor and the best design the human mind can come up with- No pipe line should ever rupture...It's like a house..If you buy the best material and hire the best plumber- 60 years later you don't have a single leak...It is strange that oil pipe lines break down- This should not happen...But then again look at British Petroleum-- they wanted to save 100 thousand on a blow out valve..so they went the cheap way and cost everyone else billions not to mention - poisoning a food source.

[RedDog]

I agree Alec. This whole business has to be rethought. We have the resources on hand on this continent and we're becoming more efficient with them every year. I'm filling my little 33L tank less than once a month, usually at the 24 or 26 L mark. Today will be another 6 km day driving.

As the bumper sticker south of the border goes: America - Funding both sides of the war on terror.

[WestViking]

The pipe should be built...........and as I mentioned a long time ago- Let the companies use the finest material..the best labour and the best design the human mind can come up with- No pipe line should ever rupture...It's like a house..If you buy the best material and hire the best plumber- 60 years later you don't have a single leak...It is strange that oil pipe lines break down- This should not happen...But then again look at British Petroleum-- they wanted to save 100 thousand on a blow out valve..so they went the cheap way and cost everyone else billions not to mention - poisoning a food source.

Great theory, but impractical. First, crude is corrosive - it is a matter of degree, but pipes will eventually corrode. Terra firma is anything but firm, let alone solid. The earth moves constantly, shifting by minute degrees in some areas and much more profoundly in others. I lived for years about a mile from a large lake. IN a year with heavy precipitation, the subsoil was so fluid that the yard undulated in a form of wave. It was noticeable as the spring melt puddles relocated after a wet summer. Earthquakes, landslides and mudslides are ample evidence of earth movement that will eventually cause harm to a pipeline. There are many techniques that can be used to minimize harm by earth movement, but - there are practical limits that mother nature ignores.

[styky]

You would conclude by the temper tantrums that this is the first such pipeline in existence. People fail to grasp that in the US alone there are some 50,000 miles of pipeline.

[Alec Bachlow]

I agree Alec. This whole business has to be rethought. We have the resources on hand on this continent and we're becoming more efficient with them every year. I'm filling my little 33L tank less than once a month, usually at the 24 or 26 L mark. Today will be another 6 km day driving.

As the bumper sticker south of the border goes: America - Funding both sides of the war on terror.

Have not had or driven a car in over three years. All I remember was I could travel from the country side into the city find a free parking spot...go to work...all for about 25 bucks a week...from what I understand people have to choose between filling up and eating properly. We have wealth...resources - clean water...OIL....Tired of governments going on about jobs and oil companies saying they are creating "Jobs" People don't want more jobs...What's the point of a job if it cost you three days pay to fill up the car...

How about having those oil companies and their share holders take a little less than the lion's share and stop playing Canadians for suckers when dealing with oil wealth that they are also informal share holders in.


I just can't get over the oil expert stating that selling oil out of Alberta to China will NOT lower domestic prices....WTF. Why would we care about new pipe lines when there is nothing in it for us.................Just heard someone say they will create 200 more new jobs in preparation of a new pipe line-------------------------------big frinking deal- so a few young immigrants will go west to work- sell dope to the hicks and maybe pimp a few woman....And murder their competition...


The biggest crook I ever knew of, made car parts...and his great mantra when wanting favor from governments was shooting off his mouth about JOBS......The create job mantra is about making a few more slaves and asking they to thank you for the favor.


We have a system of hoarding wealth in Canada- I am not talking about socialist re-distribution of wealth and all that garbage....Just be loyal to workers and pay them well....share a little....Forget about China and that 20 million dollar bonus- show some loyalty on home turf.

[styky]

Here's a graph that might interest you.......

http://caa.ca/mini%20sites/gasprice/breakdown.html

http://caa.ca/mini%20sites/gasprice/pricing.html

[Brown envelope]

We have a system of hoarding wealth in Canada- I am not talking about socialist re-distribution of wealth and all that garbage....

Actually, yes you are...you might have convinced yourself otherwise but it's pretty obvious in your posts in this thread.