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Postby styky » 10/ 29/ 08 3:04 pm

<a href=http://joannenova.com.au/global-warming/>The Skeptics Handbook</a> - Rise above the mudslinging in the Global Warming debate. Here are the strategies and tools you need to cut through the red-herrings, and avoid the traps. (JoNova)
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Postby styky » 01/ 06/ 09 5:58 pm

<a href=http://mclean.ch/climate/docs/IPCC_numbers.pdf>The IPCC Can't Count - Author and Reviewer numbers are wrong</a> (.pdf) - How many times have you heard or read words to the effect that 4000 scientists from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate change (IPCC) supported the claims about a significant human influence on climate? I think I've seen it on television, radio and the Internet and I know that politicians at national levels have quoted such figures. There's no question whatsoever. It's utterly wrong.

In fact, once the duplicated names are removed that number falls below 2,900 and if we only want those who explicitly supported the claims it falls to only about 60. So how does 4,000 become 60? Let's take a closer look at the real numbers. (John McLean).....................
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Postby BruCru2 » 05/ 01/ 09 10:52 am

Here is the perfect article by Lord Monckton that debunks everything that the alarmists are claiming. He was asked to speak to the US House of Representatives Committee on Energy and Commerce. Also in attendance was Tom Karl, Director of the National Climatic Data Center, who continually interupted Lord Monckton saying his data was wrong. The committee became frustrated and asked Lord Monckton to present details backing his data. He sent the following letter:

http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/image ... letter.pdf

Here is another article that disputes David Suzuki's claims that Canada is a large emitter of greenhouse gases.

http://miltonconservative.blogspot.com/ ... owing.html
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Postby styky » 07/ 25/ 09 11:04 pm

A link I fell on tonight that needs to be remembered

http://climatedebatedaily.com/
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Nice

Postby HappyGuy » 08/ 08/ 09 11:56 am

I especially liked the use of the motown tune "I'm your puppet playing over their faces."

I found this site in a periodic look around for anything new on global warming.

I will admit that more than being concerned I just enjoy the circus, but I am concerned.

I think that we are having an impact on the climate, and that releasing so much of the naturally sequestered carbon in oil and coal deposits is reckless.

I think that it is all a muddle and while we don't know what is going to happen, it is likely to be worse than anyone expects, but for us in Canada it is likely to be easier to cope.

Large areas of the world could suffer depopulation. Canada will just have to plan on taking in about 200 million environmental refugees which may sound horrible but over a period of 50 or more years it will mostly be a positive in terms of our increased tax base and assuming any level of gratitude and loyalty to their adopted nation, it will mean greater security.

Our low population in Canada is ridiculous and our most serious security issue. I think we are fine at our current population level except that we are in an overpopulated world. If we are going to export so many resources to feed that greedy world, we should consider the idea of increasing our domestic consumption first with an increased population.

The logarithmic warming effect of increased atmospheric carbon is not often enough mentioned. The analogy of wearing two hats not keeping you twice as warm is a good one, and I wish I knew who came up with it.

At the same time if we keep increasing carbon emissions then it is not two hats anymore that we should worry about.

The growth economics theory is the serious problem. Even with my population growth wish for Canada I would put a firm maximum of 250 million Canadians, and I want to make that gain from refugees, which would reduce pressure elsewhere on the globe. This is one planet, and for the likely future our only planet. We can't afford to ignore any of it.

If you expect historical growth forever you are just wrong. It can't happen. Adjust your expectations towards steady state economics where improved sustainability and efficiency allow gains that create new profits and you are better equipped to steer towards a stronger future.

We might soon see more melting of the arctic. We are entering another El Nino period after about 2 years of La Nina. Methane and CO2 from permafrost and ocean sediments are already important and increasing contributors to atmospheric carbon. The Ocean seems to be switching out of absorbtion mode with areas of CO2 release from the ocean becoming more common.

If our carbon footprint mattered before it is less likely to matter from here on out. It is too late for that.

Take care of the people. The environment is now well beyond our influence through carbon cuts.
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Re: Nice

Postby CdnRepublican » 08/ 08/ 09 1:46 pm

HappyGuy wrote:I especially liked the use of the motown tune "I'm your puppet playing over their faces."

I found this site in a periodic look around for anything new on global warming.

I will admit that more than being concerned I just enjoy the circus, but I am concerned.

I think that we are having an impact on the climate, and that releasing so much of the naturally sequestered carbon in oil and coal deposits is reckless.

I think that it is all a muddle and while we don't know what is going to happen, it is likely to be worse than anyone expects, but for us in Canada it is likely to be easier to cope.

Large areas of the world could suffer depopulation. Canada will just have to plan on taking in about 200 million environmental refugees which may sound horrible but over a period of 50 or more years it will mostly be a positive in terms of our increased tax base and assuming any level of gratitude and loyalty to their adopted nation, it will mean greater security.

Our low population in Canada is ridiculous and our most serious security issue. I think we are fine at our current population level except that we are in an overpopulated world. If we are going to export so many resources to feed that greedy world, we should consider the idea of increasing our domestic consumption first with an increased population.

The logarithmic warming effect of increased atmospheric carbon is not often enough mentioned. The analogy of wearing two hats not keeping you twice as warm is a good one, and I wish I knew who came up with it.

At the same time if we keep increasing carbon emissions then it is not two hats anymore that we should worry about.

The growth economics theory is the serious problem. Even with my population growth wish for Canada I would put a firm maximum of 250 million Canadians, and I want to make that gain from refugees, which would reduce pressure elsewhere on the globe. This is one planet, and for the likely future our only planet. We can't afford to ignore any of it.

If you expect historical growth forever you are just wrong. It can't happen. Adjust your expectations towards steady state economics where improved sustainability and efficiency allow gains that create new profits and you are better equipped to steer towards a stronger future.

We might soon see more melting of the arctic. We are entering another El Nino period after about 2 years of La Nina. Methane and CO2 from permafrost and ocean sediments are already important and increasing contributors to atmospheric carbon. The Ocean seems to be switching out of absorbtion mode with areas of CO2 release from the ocean becoming more common.

If our carbon footprint mattered before it is less likely to matter from here on out. It is too late for that.

Take care of the people. The environment is now well beyond our influence through carbon cuts.



Keep drinking the Kool Aid.

Globaloney Warming is about as real as the Black Jesus' divine powers.

A cult for little minds, wishing to be moral and superior; looking for something to believe in and convinced that they are part of a special group destined to rule mankind.

Hitlerism, Russian Fascism and Islam have all expressed the same certainty.
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Re: Nice

Postby styky » 08/ 08/ 09 5:39 pm

HappyGuy wrote:I especially liked the use of the motown tune "I'm your puppet playing over their faces."

I found this site in a periodic look around for anything new on global warming.

I will admit that more than being concerned I just enjoy the circus, but I am concerned.

I think that we are having an impact on the climate, and that releasing so much of the naturally sequestered carbon in oil and coal deposits is reckless.

I think that it is all a muddle and while we don't know what is going to happen, it is likely to be worse than anyone expects, but for us in Canada it is likely to be easier to cope.

Large areas of the world could suffer depopulation. Canada will just have to plan on taking in about 200 million environmental refugees which may sound horrible but over a period of 50 or more years it will mostly be a positive in terms of our increased tax base and assuming any level of gratitude and loyalty to their adopted nation, it will mean greater security.

Our low population in Canada is ridiculous and our most serious security issue. I think we are fine at our current population level except that we are in an overpopulated world. If we are going to export so many resources to feed that greedy world, we should consider the idea of increasing our domestic consumption first with an increased population.

The logarithmic warming effect of increased atmospheric carbon is not often enough mentioned. The analogy of wearing two hats not keeping you twice as warm is a good one, and I wish I knew who came up with it.

At the same time if we keep increasing carbon emissions then it is not two hats anymore that we should worry about.

The growth economics theory is the serious problem. Even with my population growth wish for Canada I would put a firm maximum of 250 million Canadians, and I want to make that gain from refugees, which would reduce pressure elsewhere on the globe. This is one planet, and for the likely future our only planet. We can't afford to ignore any of it.

If you expect historical growth forever you are just wrong. It can't happen. Adjust your expectations towards steady state economics where improved sustainability and efficiency allow gains that create new profits and you are better equipped to steer towards a stronger future.

We might soon see more melting of the arctic. We are entering another El Nino period after about 2 years of La Nina. Methane and CO2 from permafrost and ocean sediments are already important and increasing contributors to atmospheric carbon. The Ocean seems to be switching out of absorbtion mode with areas of CO2 release from the ocean becoming more common.

If our carbon footprint mattered before it is less likely to matter from here on out. It is too late for that.

Take care of the people. The environment is now well beyond our influence through carbon cuts.


Oh please :roll:
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Postby styky » 12/ 17/ 09 12:22 am

<a href=http://peacelegacy.org/articles/how-see-yourself-global-warming-climate-models-are-false>How to see for yourself the 'Global Warming' climate models are false</a>
<a href=http://peacelegacy.org/articles/global-warming-science-simple>Global Warming: The Science is Simple</a>
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Re: Nice

Postby Edward Kennedy » 12/ 17/ 09 6:03 am

HappyGuy wrote:I especially liked the use of the motown tune "I'm your puppet playing over their faces."

I found this site in a periodic look around for anything new on global warming.

I will admit that more than being concerned I just enjoy the circus, but I am concerned.

I think that we are having an impact on the climate, and that releasing so much of the naturally sequestered carbon in oil and coal deposits is reckless.

I think that it is all a muddle and while we don't know what is going to happen, it is likely to be worse than anyone expects, but for us in Canada it is likely to be easier to cope.

Large areas of the world could suffer depopulation. Canada will just have to plan on taking in about 200 million environmental refugees which may sound horrible but over a period of 50 or more years it will mostly be a positive in terms of our increased tax base and assuming any level of gratitude and loyalty to their adopted nation, it will mean greater security.

Our low population in Canada is ridiculous and our most serious security issue. I think we are fine at our current population level except that we are in an overpopulated world. If we are going to export so many resources to feed that greedy world, we should consider the idea of increasing our domestic consumption first with an increased population.

The logarithmic warming effect of increased atmospheric carbon is not often enough mentioned. The analogy of wearing two hats not keeping you twice as warm is a good one, and I wish I knew who came up with it.

At the same time if we keep increasing carbon emissions then it is not two hats anymore that we should worry about.

The growth economics theory is the serious problem. Even with my population growth wish for Canada I would put a firm maximum of 250 million Canadians, and I want to make that gain from refugees, which would reduce pressure elsewhere on the globe. This is one planet, and for the likely future our only planet. We can't afford to ignore any of it.

If you expect historical growth forever you are just wrong. It can't happen. Adjust your expectations towards steady state economics where improved sustainability and efficiency allow gains that create new profits and you are better equipped to steer towards a stronger future.

We might soon see more melting of the arctic. We are entering another El Nino period after about 2 years of La Nina. Methane and CO2 from permafrost and ocean sediments are already important and increasing contributors to atmospheric carbon. The Ocean seems to be switching out of absorbtion mode with areas of CO2 release from the ocean becoming more common.

If our carbon footprint mattered before it is less likely to matter from here on out. It is too late for that.

Take care of the people. The environment is now well beyond our influence through carbon cuts.


You are a fine example of a typical lieberal useful idiot who refuses to be confused by the facts.
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Postby backhoe » 12/ 17/ 09 6:50 am

This is interesting:

HappyGuy
"The user you selected does not exist."

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Postby Edward Kennedy » 12/ 17/ 09 7:11 am

backhoe wrote:This is interesting:

HappyGuy
"The user you selected does not exist."

Admins? What gives?


Your handle "Backhoe" certainly suits you...digging is what you were for...I suggest he is a legend in his own mind...a fairy tale...an oxymoron...a mist over the lake that evaporates with the rising of the sun...a sheep turd that hardens, and decomposes...

Oh great oracle of ignorance, how hath thou enlarged the exesses of thy mental flatulations...how grand art the machinations of thine abcessed mind...where gatherest thou from the cesspools of lies and deceit the substance of thine mental midgetry...alas, I seest the wisdom of thine exalted self, as phlegmatic slime coughed and spat upon the ground...as dung from the ass, whose birth "nounced well by it's braying...pray tell, whence comest thou ,and where goest thee in thine drunkeness?

..and I wonder why at times I laspe into Miltonian expression to disrespect the disrespectful...generally I save this to release sacred feleings of affection, that flow through someone who will be encouraged in their struggles/hardhips/despair.

...abuse of semantical expression?
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Postby Edward Kennedy » 12/ 17/ 09 7:20 am

...could this be...alas, the crow, that squawking and shiteing entity of arrogant ignorance and self importance?


Nay, and nay, for e''en the harsh substance of lies nor the solid thud of elephant dung, canst equate with the ignorance and vapidity of he whose existence consisteth of a perpetual journey into solipsism, that voracious and self destructing parasitic work of lieberalism...


Gotta stop, my own sophistry is bringing tears to my eyes, touching me deeply, and rending me asunder... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby backhoe » 12/ 17/ 09 7:23 am

Edward Kennedy wrote:
backhoe wrote:This is interesting:

HappyGuy
"The user you selected does not exist."

Admins? What gives?


Your handle "Backhoe" certainly suits you...digging is what you were for...I suggest he is a legend in his own mind...a fairy tale...


I'm just curious how he slipped in to this forum as a no-seeum...

Hack?
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Postby Edward Kennedy » 12/ 17/ 09 7:41 am

backhoe wrote:
Edward Kennedy wrote:
backhoe wrote:This is interesting:

HappyGuy
"The user you selected does not exist."

Admins? What gives?


Your handle "Backhoe" certainly suits you...digging is what you were for...I suggest he is a legend in his own mind...a fairy tale...


I'm just curious how he slipped in to this forum as a no-seeum...

Hack?



...more like a brainwashed lieberal lightweight.
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Postby backhoe » 12/ 17/ 09 8:05 am

Edward Kennedy wrote:
backhoe wrote:
Edward Kennedy wrote:
backhoe wrote:This is interesting:

HappyGuy
"The user you selected does not exist."

Admins? What gives?


Your handle "Backhoe" certainly suits you...digging is what you were for...I suggest he is a legend in his own mind...a fairy tale...


I'm just curious how he slipped in to this forum as a no-seeum...

Hack?


I like to think of them this way...

<img src="http://images2.cafepress.com/product/325978942v2_350x350_Front.jpg">


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