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Postby Faith Hope and Love » 01/ 08/ 07 3:05 pm

Dacre wrote:Albertan said
Remember people, in the 70's, the scam was global cooling...new ice age and other rubbish....now it is a new scam....meet the new boss...same as the old boss.....
What ever happened to acid rain destroying all of the lakes and killing the trees? How about the hole in the ozone layer? I guess it was time to move on.

The funding monies that drive "government by crisis" move on with the "scare du jour", as do the "expert" beneficiaries who provide propogandizing "leadership" to the ignorant masses.

DO Reference the Environment segment of this Walter & Duncan Gordon Foundation webpage:
<a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20050307024031/www.gordonfn.org/History.html" target="_blank">History of Grant Making</a>
Environment
The Gordons took an early interest in funding both scientific research and increased public awareness to address environmental threats to the health and well-being of Canadian society.

Grants to Pollution Probe preceded a multi-year commitment, starting in 1981, to the Coalition on Acid Rain. The Coalition, led by Adele Hurley and Michael Perley, was Canada's largest environmental group in the 1980s. Their education and advocacy efforts resulted in amendments to the U.S. Clean Air Act of 1990. Other recipients of environmental grants during the 1980s included the Nature Conservancy of Canada, Atlantic Salmon Federation, Waterwatch Canada, and the Canadian Institute of Resources Law at the University of Calgary.


Michael Perley has apparently "moved on" to leadership of the OMA-conglomerate of non-profit organizations called Ontario Campaign for Action on Tobacco (OCAT), to promote public policy driven by the ETS (second hand smoke) "scare du jour".

Excerpted from the online University of Waterloo "Daily Bulletin" dated Thursday, November 16, 1995
Talking about acid rain
With a lecture and a reception, UW's library today celebrates the official opening of a major archive about environmental activism in Canada. The files of the Canadian Coalition on Acid Rain -- the largest environmental group in the country, shortly after its founding in 1981 -- were donated to UW last year
There will be an open house from 9:30 to 11 today in the Doris Lewis Rare Book Room, on the ground floor of the Dana Porter Library. Then at 11:30 Michael Perley, who was executive director of the Coalition (and now heads the Ontario Campaign for Action on Tobacco), will speak in the Humanities Theatre. His talk is about international environmental advocacy; everybody is welcome.



The past often hints at the future?

from the webpage: AUTO-FREE ZONE, Issue No. 8 - July-September 1994
AUTO-FREE ZONE wrote:Michael Perley, former executive coordinator of the now disbanded Canadian Coalition on Acid Rain said
although it is true that Canada receives American pollution in the form of acid rain or acidic aerosols, much of the
summertime smog is made up of local pollutants, such as car exhaust.
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Postby rwebb » 01/ 08/ 07 9:26 pm

DrWright wrote:Never heard of an acid rain denier.

Not now, but there were plenty at the time, with Ronald Reagan leading the chorus. Here's a link to an article that was much quoted at the time, called "The great acid rain flimflam":
http://www.heartland.org/Article.cfm?artId=5875
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Postby rwebb » 01/ 08/ 07 9:37 pm

doggedlyright wrote:I have provided on previous threads the hoax of the CFC and the ozone depletion scare.

I'm not going to sidetrack this thread with a CFC debate. Especially since I've no idea what your post was trying to prove. Yes, CFC substitutes are flammable. So what? I have several gas appliances in my house. Very few of them have exploded so far. :?:
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Postby Grig » 01/ 08/ 07 10:10 pm

Frankie wrote:Here's another good link:

http://www.junkscience.com/

To further support the theory that warming is caused by solar activity, did you know that the icecaps on Mars have been shrinking too? So, it's either solar cycles or the Martian SUV market has been going nutso along with all those evil Martian businessmen and their CO2 spewing factories.


There is also evidence of climate change for Jupiter and Pluto, and Pluto is moving AWAY from the sun currently.
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Postby rwebb » 01/ 08/ 07 10:37 pm

I find it hysterical that those who are so skeptical about the reliability of climate models on Earth can be so credulous when it comes to claims of climate change on Mars and Jupiter. :lol:
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Postby AlbertanFirst » 01/ 09/ 07 1:42 pm

I find it hysterical that their is absolutely no proof of man's involvement in changing the weather through his actions yet lib idiots aka webb, keep flogging the same lies over and over.... :lol:
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Postby styky » 01/ 09/ 07 1:50 pm

AlbertanFirst wrote:I find it hysterical that their is absolutely no proof of man's involvement in changing the weather through his actions yet lib idiots aka webb, keep flogging the same lies over and over.... :lol:


Proof you want proof :rotfl:

We're all supposed to bend over and submit ourselves to the latest enviromental loonie fringes with our wallets held open. Proof never enters into it. If it did then articles like the following listed would have more attention.

<a href=http://www.innovations-report.com/html/reports/earth_sciences/report-49247.html>Killer methane burps caused massive global warming</a>

<a href=http://www.rense.com/general74/meth.htm>Has Methane Started Venting From Seafloor?</a>

<a href=http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05273/580563.stm>Lake Erie burps and nearby residents smell it</a>
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Postby nigelf » 01/ 10/ 07 9:51 pm

This scam has been bothering me for some time and this evening I found a great site debunking global warming with ton's of links.

http://www.akdart.com/warming.html
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Postby styky » 02/ 16/ 07 12:01 pm

nigelf wrote:This scam has been bothering me for some time and this evening I found a great site debunking global warming with ton's of links.

http://www.akdart.com/warming.html


Thanks that's a good one =D>
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Postby styky » 02/ 23/ 07 2:35 pm

Proof that warming in Western Australia is all about the sun
<a href=http://gustofhotair.blogspot.com/2007/02/proof-that-warming-in-western-australia.html>source</a> (see souce for Links within the article)


I promised you some good analysis on Southern Pilbara (central-west Western Australia) yesterday when I analysed the temperatures and I keep to my promise so here it is:

Yesterday we came up with the very unusual result that despite the fact that there was no significant increases in temperature from 9pm to 6am in southern Pilbara - and not even any recogniseable patterns – we found that the area recorded a significant increase in minimum temperature. This is very surprising. We also found that in the area temperatures were significantly higher from 9am thru to 3pm when the sun is at it’s hottest.

At first look it’s quite clear that the reason southern Pilbara is heating up is solely due to the sun. The sun is just getting damned hotter. So why the increase in minimum temperatures, especially when there is no difference in temperatures throughout the night?

I decided to have a look at the differences in temperature anomalies for neighboring times over the years. In other words, I looked at the temperature anomalies for Midnight minus 9pm. As previously noted, 9pm doesn’t have a lot of data for Southern Pilbara so it is hard to find a pattern, and the statistics suggest no difference (t = 0.24, p = 0.81). In other words, Midnight has not been heating up at a quicker rate than 9pm over the years in Southern Pilbara.

The same goes for 3am minus Midnight, only this time we have a good amount of data. There is no pattern. Temperatuers at 3am have not been heating up quicker or slower than Midnight over the years (t = 1.4, p = 0.15).

But wow, look at this. When looking at 6am minus 3am, we find that temperatures have increased at a significantly higher rate at 6am than 3am (t = 5.3, p < 0.01). Keeping in mind that we did not find a significant increase in temperature at 6am, however we have found that the temperature increase at 6am is significantly greater than 3am. This has occurred with especial magnitude in the last 10 years as shown in the graph.

And a similar pattern occurs when looking at the 9am – 6am anomalies. A significant increase occurs (t = 6.04, p < 0.01). With temperatures increasing on average 0.5 degrees more in the past 10 years. If you look at the 6am and 9am graphs, this makes sence, as in the last 10 years 6am was about average temperature whilst 9am temperatures were about 0.5 degrees above the norm.

Surprisingly this is where the large boom stops. Analysis of Noon minus 9am temperatures suggest no increase or decrease in temperature (t = -0.6, p =0.55). A cyclic pattern can be seen, but this could be purely due to random variation.

And now for the even more surprising results. 3pm minus Noon saw a significant decrease in anomaly temperatures (t = -8.1, p < 0.01). The decrease is almost perfectly linear and is clearly obvious. So despite significant increase in temperature for south Pilbara for Noon and 3pm, 3pm isn’t heating up as much as it has been 3 hours before.

The obvious linear line in the graph of 6pm to 3pm is startling. So perfect is the line, that the amount of variability is very small. The decreasing trend is very significant (t = -10.8, p < 0.01).

There was no significant difference in temperatures when looking at the differences between the 9pm and 6pm anomalies, however a smaller database for temperatures at 9pm could have been a factor (t = 1.3, p = 0.18).

So what does all this mean? How is this all relevant. Well let’s summarise what we have just found. The rate of increase or decrease in temperatures with respect to the time 3 years prior makes little difference at night, but when the sun is a factor the difference is significant. Temperature anomalies at 6am and 9am have increased significantly with respect to the time 3 hours previous over the years, whilst temperatures at 3pm and 6pm have decreased significantly with respect to the time 3 hours previous.

But to understand fully what this means, we have to discuss very briefly how daily temperature works. Basically we reach a maximum temperature, and from that point on the temperature generally decreases. When the sun as set, there is no general reason why temperatures will be on the rise, so they decrease until the sun makes an appearance again. In southern Pilbara the sun rises in general half way between 6am and 9am depending on the season.

We suggested before that is was relatively obvious that the sun was a major factor in determining the average maximum temperature in Southern Pilbara, as we saw no increases in temperature over night. We have also proven that the sun has made significant increases in maximum temperature rather than minimum during years when Australia is heating up. So would a stronger sun therefore also have an influence on minimum temperatures? Our analysis suggests so.

Whilst no increases in temperature were found for Southern Pilbara from between 9pm and 6am when the sun was set, at 6am, the temperature increase as compared to 3am was highly significant. The sun, whilst not risen, quite possibly was warming up neighbouring areas more than normal, and adding heat to the air above at a greater rate than normal. Thus paving the way for when it makes its grand entrance at sunrise.

Hence, whilst not making a significant temperature difference at 6am before sunrise, it made a significant increase in temperature compared to 3 hours prior at a time where normally the minimum temperature would have been reached. This extra layer of heat paved the way for massive increases in temperature at 9am after the sun had risen. Following, due to the massive increases in temperature 9am, Noon and 3pm also had increasing temperatures due to the intensity of the sun, but not quite as dramatic as that when the sun rose. Hence we have a situation where we have a significant increase in temperature at 3pm but a highly significant decrease in temperature at 3pm with relation to Noon. I guess there’s only so much difference that the sun can make.

So what can we conclude about Southern Pilbara? That increases in the suns intensity has caused the area to heat up during the day, to stay at a constant temperature during the night, and most importantly, that increased intensity in the sun has not only caused increases in maximum temperatures but also increases in minimum temperatures.

Who would have thought that the sun has something to do with heat?
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Postby Shamus11 » 02/ 27/ 07 12:05 am

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Bring on Global Warming Soon

By

James Bredin

They keep preaching and warning us about global warming,
New numbers, figures, surveys and charts every morning,
It sounds like it might be here by at least next Thursday week,
The sky might fall in the meantime and things could indeed get bleak.

Pompous TV prophets say this is going to happen for sure,
Have your credit card ready and send away for their brochure,
Make a big donation to their foundation and their cause,
Because if you don’t; it’s coming to get you, just like in Jaws.

New religion of Kyoto has arrived like apocalypse now,
Climate change is coming to a place near you soon somehow,
And you better join up or maybe repent or change your ways,
You’re not allowed to escape this righteous new religious craze.

But they muddy the waters as they continue to torment,
Hide the fact that climate change is a slow ongoing event,
They wave their arms and they scream as they try to cast a spell,
They going to ride their celebrity status all the way to hell.

This natural cycle that has all these scientists worked up,
Places that make smoke might have to eventually closeup,
If we close down these factories, it might interfere with trade,
That’s where many people work and that’s where they get paid.

But those facts seem to have evaded these religious nuts,
Some of them highly educated but still behave like a klutz,
I think that climate change could be great so bring it on,
I’ve had enough digging snow and wish it was all gone.

Sunday, February 25, 2007
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Postby Blue Canadian » 02/ 27/ 07 11:34 am

Here's some more interesting information that the "Goracle" wouldn't understand - it contains some of this fancy scientific stuff called STATISTICS - but it isn't used in a "sustainable" fashion - i.e. to describe marketing or political campaigns, as Gore is used to.

And the data clearly shows that the contention that the last 10 years of warming are anamolous is, well, so much hot air.

:lol:

Saturday, February 24, 2007
Extreme Temperatures - Where's the Global Warming?

SEARCH BLOG: GLOBAL WARMING

Updated on Sunday, February 25, 2007.


I was looking at our local temperature history and noticed that most of the record high temperatures over the past 70 years were between 1980 and 1990 or between 1950 and 1955, while the record low temperatures were fairly evenly distributed. This graphic shows the 12 months' (not individually identified) record high temperatures and the year that they occurred.

<img src="http://bp1.blogger.com/_b5jZxTCSlm0/ReB21tDJPdI/AAAAAAAAAHQ/ScVtdSALgzM/s400/HighTemperaturesLocal.jpg">


That didn't jibe with current assertions about global warming causing temperature extremes and record temperatures occurring in the last ten years. I thought that it might be a local anomaly so I went to records by state at Infoplease.com and got the following samples scattered all over the U.S.

ADDENDUM:

On the recommendation of Dr. Roger Pielke, Sr. at the University of Colorado, I created a database from the data shown on the state charts below for all 50 states from 1884 to May 2004 (end of available data from that source). [Also see further explanatory notes regarding these data on tomorrow's post]

This is what it shows (click on image to enlarge):

<img src="http://bp1.blogger.com/_b5jZxTCSlm0/ReG8LdDJPhI/AAAAAAAAAHw/qOLTQ_SP5qQ/s400/Record+High+Temperature+Chart.jpg">

The chart plots the number of record high temperatures by year for all 50 states. There is a 10-year trendline to help smooth out the data. It clearly shows that, for the U.S., the last 10 years were really no hotter than average (600 data points in 120 years = 5 per year) in creating record high temperatures. It might be worthwhile to take a look at other land masses in this way.

Dr. Pielke also requested another chart showing the low extremes which is shown below.

<img src="http://bp1.blogger.com/_b5jZxTCSlm0/ReG8DdDJPgI/AAAAAAAAAHo/4KNp-tDD-pQ/s400/Record+Low+Temperature+Chart.jpg">


My comments to Dr. Pielke concerning these data were:

I'm not exactly sure how one might interpret the results of the low temps. Certainly, the 60s through the 80s had their share of record cold with the moving average of about 7-8 per year. The last ten years has seen the moving average fall toward the overall per year average of 5 (600 data points / 120 years).

There has been greater variability (range) on the record high side (30 in 1936) than the record low side (18 in 1917) overall.

How any of the data can substantiate "global warming" is a little beyond me, I'm afraid. There is not a convincing trend of extremes to support the contention that the beginning of the 21st century is markedly different from, say, the 1950s. If the contention that the number of extremes on the high side should correspond to the change toward a hotter climate is correct, then the evidence is not there... or at least apparent to me.

Perhaps the notion that the "global warming" effect is more on the low side (few low extremes) might be hinted at with what is shown, but I wouldn't be comfortable with just a few years at the end; I'd want a couple of decades of low [few]/no low records to support that.
The work file with the database and charts will be available at Climate Science soon if you wish to exam it or use it to compare with other data. For now, it is nothing more than the raw data with two summary charts that raise some questions.

<a href="http://hallofrecord.blogspot.com/2007/02/extreme-temperatures-wheres-global.html">Link to full article and data</a>
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Postby DrWright » 02/ 27/ 07 2:56 pm

rwebb wrote:I find it hysterical that those who are so skeptical about the reliability of climate models on Earth can be so credulous when it comes to claims of climate change on Mars and Jupiter. :lol:


I find it hysterical that in a city that just went almost a month below normal and recently has had summers suspected as being the coldest since the ice ages would believe in flawed hockey stick.
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Postby styky » 03/ 02/ 07 3:29 pm

<a href=http://ff.org/centers/csspp/pdf/20070226_monckton.pdf>"UN Covertly Corrects IPCC Errors After Publication + Uncorrected Errors By Al Gore" </a> (.pdf) - "Shortly after the launch of the IPCC's latest Summary for Policymakers, Viscount Monckton sent the UN a list of 31 errors and exaggerations. The IPCC did not reply, but substantially rewrote the report so as to remove some of the errors." (CSPP)

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Postby rwebb » 03/ 02/ 07 9:19 pm

DrWright wrote:I find it hysterical that in a city that just went almost a month below normal...
A whole month! :lol:
... and recently has had summers suspected as being the coldest since the ice ages...
You're talking about 2004, right? Which still managed to be the fourth warmest year on record globally. Yup, sucks to be us sometimes...
... would believe in flawed hockey stick.
Still in hockey stick denial? Is there a single credible expert, even among the skeptics, who doesn't agree that the global temperature is rising? I thought the current right-wing mantra was that the sun was to blame. :?
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