smallLliberal wrote:whatever you say there Disco Stu
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WestViking wrote:BEFORE YOU POST THAT REPLY . . . . . .
It is crucial to a vibrant and healthy forum for FD members to understand how debate and discussion work and to employ proper respect for fellow members.
It is frustrating when we find ourselves clashing with opponents while making no headway towards reaching a meeting of our minds. Remember that if we are not open to changing our minds, we are not in a debate or discussion; our objective is to impose our will on others and we will not be treated kindly.
• Remember that your opponents have reached their conclusions using the same rational process you did. The difference is not due to their intellect, but rather the information they have and the values they hold.
• Understand this means that your opponent feels just as confident about the accuracy of his or her position. This requires that you prove that their information or values are deficient or incorrect in order to persuade them to change their views.
• Realize that successful debate can only take place when you inform and persuade by supplying added information and by addressing the values behind your opponent's conclusions and that you must remain open to valid arguments by your opponent.
• Respect the people you discuss or debate with. Disagree strongly on an issue and demolish his or her arguments and viewpoints, but do not attack the person.
• Do not call your opponent names or declare that an opponent is a moron or idiot. People reading the thread can see who has the better argument. They can also sort out who can counter an argument forcefully and respectfully and who resorts to a personal attack instead. You too are under scrutiny by forum readers.
• Inappropriate language, cursing and shocking statements will not be tolerated. Argue your position in a calm and reasonable manner. Respectable debate does not allow disdain for others and will result in post deletion or if repeated offences result in a ban.
• Guard yourself against making groundless statements. Logic or evidence must support every position you take. Logic includes everything from complex arguments to cause-and-effect. Evidence can take the form of examples, statistics, and quotations from authorities in the field. Supported arguments stand until refuted. Unsupported arguments do not deserve a response and might as well not exist.
• Ignore an opponent’s spelling, grammar, or insignificant deviations from fact. Your opponent is most likely correct and their error has nothing to do with the overall truth of the proposition they defend. Do not make a fool of yourself by being a sore loser.
• Do your own research. Provide quotes or excerpts to support you arguments and include links to the sources you cite.
• Majorities do not rule a debate. The majority has no more right to silence the opinion of a minority through disrespectful, improper argument than the minority would have to engage in the same tactics. You will not win a debate by ignoring the advice above.
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