'Expert':Cut World Population and Redistribute Resources

[T.G.]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2 ... ul-ehrlich

Cut world population and redistribute resources, expert urges
Nuclear disaster or plague likely unless population shrinks and natural resources are reassigned to poor, says Prof Paul Ehrlich
• John Vidal
• guardian.co.uk, Thursday 26 April 2012 11.19 BST

The world's most renowned population analyst has called for a massive reduction in the number of humans and for natural resources to be redistributed from the rich to the poor.
Paul Ehrlich, Bing professor of population studies at Stanford University in California and author of the best-selling Population Bomb book in 1968, goes much further than the Royal Society in London which this morning said that physical numbers were as important as the amount of natural resources consumed.
The optimum population of Earth – enough to guarantee the minimal physical ingredients of a decent life to everyone – was 1.5 to 2 billion people rather than the 7 billion who are alive today or the 9 billion expected in 2050, said Ehrlich in an interview with the Guardian.
"How many you support depends on lifestyles. We came up with 1.5 to 2 billion because you can have big active cities and wilderness. If you want a battery chicken world where everyone has minimum space and food and everyone is kept just about alive you might be able to support in the long term about 4 or 5 billion people. But you already have 7 billion. So we have to humanely and as rapidly as possible move to population shrinkage."
"The question is: can you go over the top without a disaster, like a worldwide plague or a nuclear war between India and Pakistan? If we go on at the pace we are there's going to be various forms of disaster. Some maybe slow motion disasters like people getting more and more hungry, or catastrophic disasters because the more people you have the greater the chance of some weird virus transferring from animal to human populations, there could be a vast die-off."
Ehrlich, who was described as alarmist in the 1970s but who says most of his predictions have proved correct, says he was gloomy about humanity's ability to feed over 9 billion people. "We have 1 billion people hungry now and we are going to add 2.5 billion. They are going to have to be fed on more marginal land, from water that is purified more or transported further, we're going to have disproportionate impacts on how we feed people from the population increase itself," he said.
"Most of the predictions [in Population Bomb] have proved correct. At that time I wrote about climate change. We did not know then if it was warming or cooling. We thought it was going to be a problem for the end of this century. Now we know it's warming and a problem for the beginning of the century; we didn't know about the loss of biodiversity. Things have been coming up worse than was predicted. We have the threats now of vast epidemics".
"I have a grim view of what is likely to happen to my children and grandchildren. Politicians can control the financial mess we are in but they don't have control over the systems of the planet that provide us our food, our welfare, those are deteriorating and it will take us a long time to turn it around if we start now. It's hard to think of anything that will pop up and save us. I hope something will but it really will be a miracle."
But he agreed with the Royal Society report that said human population and consumption should not be divided. "[They] multiply together. You have to be deal with them together. We have too much consumption among the rich and too little among the poor. That implies that terrible thing that we are going to have to do which is to somehow redistribute access to resources away the rich to the poor. But in the US we have been doing the opposite. The Republican party is wildly in favour of more redistribution, of taking money from the poor and giving it to the rich."

[nigelf]

This is precisely what the United Nations is all about, what global warming is all about. It's nice to see them come out openly about it. Human hating. What a bizarre concept.
Now they can get on with organizing a mass suicide a'la Jim Jones with their millions of adherents going to the great beyond leaving us sane people behind to enjoy life and prosper.

[Brexx]

How about a "voluntary visectomy drive? Anyone who really believes in this stuff should be urged to step forward and have his nuts disconnected for the cause - free of charge. And of course they could also be strongly encouraged to hand over their house and other assets for "redistribution".
Lead by example - know what I mean?

[T.G.]

Great replies! Notice how their ideas for saving the earth always apply to OTHER people.

[Ben Kenobi]

The optimum population of Earth

I want to see how he devised this figure.

[laconic]

The optimum population of Earth

I want to see how he devised this figure.

I agree. Going by the 500 million to 1 billion ideal population called for by other UN puppet NGO's and assorted mouth pieces his number is a bit high.

On youtube do a search for ICLEI and watch some of the videos. If your not familiar with UN agenda 21 and ICLEI you will be shocked at how far their plan has progressed and impressed that more than a few States have passed legislation kicking ICLEI and agenda 21 out of their states.

Canada, of course, is completely on board and this is all happening here, and happening fast. Most people know nothing about it, and won't until the process is complete and we no longer have a country, unless more people than the current few lone voices start becoming more vocal and educating their neighbors.

[backhoe]

...Notice how their ideas for saving the earth always apply to OTHER people.

Funny, isn't it? "Saving the Earth!"
( From what, I always ask- the Earth will be here long after all of us are gone... )

Always involves spending lots of OPM...
( Other people's money )

And getting rid of certain groups of people...

[Edward Kennedy]

Good plan actually if we eliminated all lieberals in academia, politics, religion, msm and in the useful idiots of the herd.

Their pitiful carcasses could be shredded, frozen, and then used to feed the killer whales and polar bears to save them killig other animals for prey, and thus their pitiful carcasses would not be wasted and this would reduce their carbon footprint.

Problem is the meat would be tainted and poison from their pre death ingestion of the kool aid and no animal their carcasses were offered to would consume them.

Gee Edward, you are coarse, but not as bad as damned psychopathic lefturds who enable the torture and murder of innocent unborn babies ALIVE. At least I allow these liberals a quick death before they are shredded.

What about the damned lefturds who enable and defend pornography, drug dealing, euthansia, and other inhuman mistreatments of humanity? Do not forget the hrc scum who persecute innocent politically incorrect people.

Then there are the liars and thieves of the provincial political mcsquintyite cult who abuse children by saddling them with debt from cradle to grave and expose them to brain washing kool aid that endangers their health and well being.

[Free_Reign]

Sanest method to limit population growth is moratorium on immigration from areas increasing in population. That is to say that nations such as Canada would have stable population numbers without immigration from nations with increasing population numbers such as China. And let the areas with increasing numbers take care of their own increasing numbers.

Caveat: Politicians have to quit increasing population numbers to sustain ponzi pension funds. That is to say that efficiencies have to be found to support aging population such as reduction of non-productive employment found particularly in service sector and government. And the disparities in methods that could arise in areas with increasing populations numbers to cope with their numbers have to be guarded against by nations that do have stable population numbers with strong military commitment such as NATO, Norad, coast guard and border protection services.

[virgey]

These are probably the same people who mourn and wail over the loss of a tree, as if the tree was a human being. Considering the fact that they consider human beings to be the problem, I guess their twisted demented logic in their twisted demented minds is reasonable.

[Fairwarning]

There's lots of seal meat off the east coast. Now come on, try telling me someone in Mali wouldn't mind a slab of seal meat with their rice or corn meal.

Anyways, I thought we have written enough checks already so 'Seal Meat For Africa' sounds good to me.

[T.G.]

These are probably the same people who mourn and wail over the loss of a tree, as if the tree was a human being. Considering the fact that they consider human beings to be the problem, I guess their twisted demented logic in their twisted demented minds is reasonable.

You know ... there was a story in the local paper that a nearby city actually closed a road for a period of time because cars were running over some endangered salamanders. Salamanders!

Meanwhile, our politicians are jumping all over a proposal to study when human life begins.

This is the Twilight Zone. Beam me up, Scotty.

[henbaker]

These are probably the same people who mourn and wail over the loss of a tree, as if the tree was a human being. Considering the fact that they consider human beings to be the problem, I guess their twisted demented logic in their twisted demented minds is reasonable.

the tree isn't a human being but once you get rid of all the trees humans *will* suffer. duh!

[Ben Kenobi]

Canada, of course, is completely on board and this is all happening here, and happening fast. Most people know nothing about it, and won't until the process is complete and we no longer have a country, unless more people than the current few lone voices start becoming more vocal and educating their neighbors.

Very much aware of this. I took a course in 'urban history'. Teaches you quite a bit of 'agenda 21', since that's what most of the class is devoted to.

Of course they don't call it that. They call it 'sustainability'.