The Antarctica, Arctic, it's melting, it's freezing thread

[styky]

Alaska On The Rocks
Posted on January 27, 2012 by Willis Eschenbach

Guest Post by Willis Eschenbach

From the “weather is not climate” department, the sea ice is in early and thick in Alaska. It makes me shiver just to look at the picture. They had to use an icebreaker to get fuel to Nome................http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/01/27/a ... the-rocks/

[styky]

Strangely Moving Antarctic Lakes Surprise Researchers
http://www.ouramazingplanet.com/2357-st ... chers.html

[styky]

Sir Richard Branson goes full on stupid in Antarctica
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/02/01/s ... ntarctica/

[Dogpatch]

i posted this on another thread but it fits here



Check the date

[styky]

i posted this on another thread but it fits here



Check the date

Okay I'm game, someone with good vision tell me what the date is.

[dpwozney]

Okay I'm game, someone with good vision tell me what the date is.

“You ask, I provide. November 2nd, 1922. Arctic Ocean Getting Warm; Seals Vanish and Icebergs Melt.”
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/03/16/y ... bergs-melt

[styky]

Okay I'm game, someone with good vision tell me what the date is.

“You ask, I provide. November 2nd, 1922. Arctic Ocean Getting Warm; Seals Vanish and Icebergs Melt.”
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/03/16/y ... bergs-melt

Thanks

Here's a interesting coincidence.... viewtopic.php?p=1681102#p1681102

[styky]

Russian scientists seeking Lake Vostok lost in frozen 'Land of the Lost'?
Published February 02, 2012
| FoxNews.com
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/02/ ... z1lLsLRXjx

[styky]

Read All About it: Al Gore's 'melting' Antarctic claims refuted by reality -- Climate Depot's A-Z Global Warming Report counters Gore

Poor Al: Antarctica has been cooling and sea ice extent has been at or near record extent in past few summers'..................http://www.climatedepot.com/a/14661/Rea ... nters-Gore

[styky]

New GRACE satellite data on sea level rise from melting ice caps

Boulder - A publication in the journal Nature by scientists at the Univ. of Colorado, has estimated that from 2003 to 2010 the world's glaciers and ice caps lost about 150 billion tons annually, causing an average annual rise of 0.4 millimeter in sea level.

Read more: http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/3 ... z1mDhG3FTJ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... ZmYUx9S4AM

[RedDog]

Currently showing -49c at Vostok Station. A lovely summer evening but still no melting.

[Dogpatch]

The Littlest Ice Age: Europeans Beg for the Return of "Global Warming"

Severe cold continues in Europe



"A man walks past an ice covered car on the frozen waterside promenade at Lake Geneva in Versoix, near
Geneva, Switzerland, early Feb. 5. The death toll from the vicious cold snap across Europe has risen to more
than 260, with the winter misery set to hit thousands of those seeking to escape it as air traffic was hit."

How cold is the Winter of 2010-2011 in Great Britain and Ireland? Well, it has been "referred to as The Big Freeze by national media. In the UK it was the coldest December ever, since Met Office records began in 1910, with a mean temperature of -1°C. It broke the previous record of 0.1°C in December 1981."

And it obviously broke records for cold set before the "Met Office records began in 1910" as indicated in this souvenir:



Or this bookplate made in 1740,



These are from the traditional River Thames frost fairs which were "on the Tideway of the River Thames at London between the 15th and 19th centuries, during the period known as the Little Ice Age."

A large collection of these items and other paintings from this pre-Global Warming era can be seen at this LiveJournal Page. It is both chilling and illuminating.

Europeans might want to think twice about turning over a large section of their power needs to wind and solar power. It might get kind of cold outside and time for more Frost! Fairs!



In the meantime, the cold in Europe is alarming. How alarming? It seems that Global Warming has been quietly cancelled in the UK. Forget global warming - it's Cycle 25 we need to worry about (and if NASA scientists are right the Thames will be freezing over again) Met Office releases new figures which show no warming in 15 years.

The supposed ‘consensus’ on man-made global warming is facing an inconvenient challenge after the release of new temperature data showing the planet has not warmed for the past 15 years. The figures suggest that we could even be heading for a mini ice age to rival the 70-year temperature drop that saw frost fairs held on the Thames in the 17th Century. Based on readings from more than 30,000 measuring stations, the data was issued last week without fanfare by the Met Office and the University of East Anglia Climatic Research Unit. It confirms that the rising trend in world temperatures ended in 1997.

Oops, I guess this is a case for "Mistaeks wur maid."

Posted by gerardvanderleun at February 5, 2012 7:40 AM
American Digest

[styky]

What do new findings on ice melt and sea level rise mean?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/cap ... _blog.html

[Dogpatch]

What do new findings on ice melt and sea level rise mean?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/cap ... _blog.html

The sea isn't rising very much but since Boston is supposed to be underwater sometime this year, i suppose the dire predictions not coming true is a good thing.

[Dogpatch]

wasn't being funny

when did pangea break up? we were at the equater at one point

back then, the Niagara Escarpment was the shore of an inland sea

Don't be too sure about that.

Ancient Arctic ecosystem rainforest-like, scientists say

Ellesmere Island once teeming with tropical life
By Randy Boswell, Ottawa Citizen
February 11, 2012

Two Canadian scientists have completed a comprehensive portrait of the lush, rainforest-like ecosystem - populated by prehistoric creatures akin to alligators, hippos and flying lemurs - that prevailed some 40 million years ago in what is now Canada's northernmost land mass: Ellesmere Island.

The study of hundreds of fossilized species, published in the latest issue of the journal Geological Society of America Bulletin, paints a picture of the ancient Arctic that contrasts sharply with the barren and bone-chilling place it is today.

But Ellesmere Island's rugged and windswept terrain, a bleak domain now ruled by the shaggy muskox, was once teeming with a diverse array of plant and animal life in a long-lost world that's only recognizable today from Earth's southern latitudes.

Glimpses of Ellesmere's extinct rainforest have been provided in previous scientific studies, including several by Saskatchewan-born paleontologist Jaelyn Eberle.

Now a professor at the University of Colorado Boulder and curator of fossil vertebrates at the university's natural history museum, Eberle co-authored the new GSA Bulletin paper with Manitoba scientist David Greenwood, a paleobiologist at Brandon University.

Their exhaustive inventory of the known flora and fauna of the Eocene Arctic, a period that lasted from about 50 million to 38 million years ago.

It reveals what Eberle calls - in refreshingly unscientific phrasing - "a pretty amazing place" at the northern extreme of the future Canada.

"Who would have guessed we had all of those turtle species and primates living in the ancient Arctic?" Eberle told Postmedia News, adding that, "despite all of the fossil discoveries though, there are still a lot of questions unanswered.

"The Canadian Arctic was, and still is, the last frontier for paleontology."

Among the unexpected inhabitants of ancient Ellesmere was the coryphodon, a semi-aquatic mammal resembling the modern hippopotamus and known from fossilized bone and teeth found on the High Arctic island.

Even though Ellesmere was situated nearly as close to the North Pole 50 million years ago as it is today, the coryphodon - notable for its massive size and fang-like tusks - lived in temperate, swampy forests that thrived in the greenhouse heated planet of the Eocene age.

Coryphodon - which stood up to one metre tall at the shoulder, was about two metres long and weighed 500 kilograms or more - was one of the largest mammals on Earth at the time.

A herbivore, it fed on flowers, leaves and marsh vegetation in the summer months and ate pine needles and fungus during the long, dark winter months that marked life at Arctic latitudes - both then and now.

Eberle said she studies the Eocene environment partly to compare its evolutionary features with today's Arctic.

Although the climate warming that the region is undergoing today is happening on a much lesser scale, the Arctic biosphere has nevertheless begun to exhibit significant shifts in the ranges of certain plants and animals.

"The Eocene Arctic biota is arguably our best 'deep time laboratory' for understanding and predicting the impacts of current and future global warming on today's polar biota," Eberle said.
Ottawa Citizen