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Re: Christians in Mid east.

Postby katsung47 » 06/ 22/ 12 3:52 pm

Most Syrians back President Assad, but you'd never know from western media

Assad's popularity, Arab League observers, US military involvement: all distorted in the west's propaganda war
Jonathan Steele guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 17 January 2012

The key finding was that while most Arabs outside Syria feel the president should resign, attitudes in the country are different. Some 55% of Syrians want Assad to stay, motivated by fear of civil war – a spectre that is not theoretical as it is for those who live outside Syria's borders.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... propaganda
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Re: Christians in Mid east.

Postby wildernessvoice » 06/ 22/ 12 5:29 pm

Here in Canada all is well for the Christian.
...few exceptions.I guess it has to start someplace.
...don't be a little boy at Christmas time and bring a nativity card to school. I use this as an example of outrageous zealot Christian behaviour.
...don't be a Canadian army chaplain and name the name of Jesus.
.... don't be a Christian pastor and quote Paul on homosexuality.
...........and on .... and on .....and on......
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Re: Christians in Mid east.

Postby RedDog » 06/ 22/ 12 5:50 pm

Now, now. Jesus is a catcher for the Washington Nationals. There's no need to be offended by his name.

You just never want to hear "Jesus loves you" if you're in a Mexican prison.
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Re: Christians in Mid east.

Postby wildernessvoice » 06/ 22/ 12 5:57 pm

RedDog wrote:Now, now. Jesus is a catcher for the Washington Nationals. There's no need to be offended by his name.

You just never want to hear "Jesus loves you" if you're in a Mexican prison.


Yup.
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Re: Christians in Mid east.

Postby katsung47 » 07/ 06/ 12 4:19 pm

12 April 2012 09:12

Syrian people urge Army not to withdraw under Annan deal

Syrians in Homs have urged the Army not to withdraw from the western city as has been required by a peace plan proposed by the special UN-Arab League envoy Kofi Annan.

According to Press TV, the residents’ opposition to the pullout comes as the international community is pressuring Damascus to implement Annan’s six-point plan.

Under the proposed plan, the Syrian Army must first withdraw its troops from populated areas.

Damascus has criticized Annan for not requiring the same commitment from the armed terrorist groups, who are fighting the government, warning that they would enter cities as soon as the Army gets out.

http://english.irib.ir/news/political/i ... annan-deal
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Re: Christians in Mid east.

Postby katsung47 » 07/ 20/ 12 4:09 pm

Syria - The West`s Greatest Fear

By Dan Glazebrook
May 05, 2012http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2012/1096/op8.htm

The strategy was simple, clear, tried and tested. It had been used successfully not only against Libya, but also Kosovo (in 1999), and was rapidly underway in Syria. It was to run as follows: train proxies to launch armed provocations; label the state's response to these provocations as genocide; intimidate the UN Security Council into agreeing that "something must be done"; incinerate the army and any other resistance with fragmentation bombs and Hellfire missiles; and finally install a weak, compliant government to sign off new contracts and alliances drawn up in London, Paris and Washington, whilst the country tore itself apart.

Result: the heart torn out of the "axis of resistance" between Iran, Syria and Hizbullah, leaving Iran isolated and the West with a free hand to attack Iran without fear of regional repercussions.

http://www.mathaba.net/news/?x=630445
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Re: Christians in Mid east.

Postby Blaze Pascal » 07/ 20/ 12 4:49 pm

The entire Medeterranian Rim, from the Balkans to Morocco, was at one time a thriving Christian civilization in the Roman Style. (I'm getting this from David Goldman How Civilizations Die: and why Islam is dying too.) This is a little something called Islamic Imperialism that you don't hear much about in the West.
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Postby DA_Champion » 07/ 20/ 12 9:54 pm

Blaze Pascal wrote:The entire Medeterranian Rim, from the Balkans to Morocco, was at one time a thriving Christian civilization in the Roman Style. (I'm getting this from David Goldman How Civilizations Die: and why Islam is dying too.) This is a little something called Islamic Imperialism that you don't hear much about in the West.


You don't need to go to David Goldman. It's standard in most western history books. Islam arose rapidly in the 7th century and by 1453 it wiped out the Byzantine empire.

"Europan culture" refers to the parts of the former Roman empire that were never permanently conquered by Islam.
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Re: Christians in Mid east.

Postby Blaze Pascal » 07/ 20/ 12 10:18 pm

DA_Champion wrote:
Blaze Pascal wrote:The entire Medeterranian Rim, from the Balkans to Morocco, was at one time a thriving Christian civilization in the Roman Style. (I'm getting this from David Goldman How Civilizations Die: and why Islam is dying too.) This is a little something called Islamic Imperialism that you don't hear much about in the West.


You don't need to go to David Goldman. It's standard in most western history books. Islam arose rapidly in the 7th century and by 1453 it wiped out the Byzantine empire.

"Europan culture" refers to the parts of the former Roman empire that were never permanently conquered by Islam.


All my life I've heard of Western Imperialists being slagged and hated in the media and schools. I was taught to be ashamed of my own culture and society.

But never did I hear even once that Islamic Imperialism was just as bad or worse.
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Re: Christians in Mid east.

Postby DA_Champion » 07/ 20/ 12 10:29 pm

Blaze Pascal wrote:All my life I've heard of Western Imperialists being slagged and hated in the media and schools. I was taught to be ashamed of my own culture and society.

But never did I hear even once that Islamic Imperialism was just as bad or worse.


The mainstream news media is focused on the last five minutes. That's their role.

I've never seen a western history textbook that doesn't devote several large chapters to the rise of Islam.

Go to your public library, take out any textbook on western civilization, and spend 4 or 5 hours reading it cover to cover. You'll learn a lot.
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Re: Christians in Mid east.

Postby mindyrbusiness » 07/ 21/ 12 10:31 am

Increasing Attacks on Christianity in Europe
by Enza Ferreri Jihad Watch-Robert Spencer

I'm afraid that Raymond Ibrahim might in the not-so-distant future have more work to do when compiling his monthly statistics of persecution of Christians.

European countries may have to be added to his list.

Persecution of Christians in Europe takes mainly two forms. The first is the age-old type that we already know from what happens in Asia and Africa as Muslim (mostly illegal) immigrants spread across the globe.

The second is the brand-new, "liberal" kind, deriving from European elites' efforts to
marginalize Christianity in its own historical home.

I'll focus in this post on a few examples of the increasing number of physical attacks on churches, Christian festivals, other symbols of Christianity and even Christian people throughout Europe. It must be noted that destroying crosses is a well-documented Islamic tradition

In a cemetery in Pausa, Saxony, Germany, a 2-meter-tall statue of Jesus Christ was beheaded and the head smashed to pieces. Pastor Frank Pierel reported that such attacks
take place rather frequently in his area.

In Strunjan, Slovenia, the "artist" Dean Verzel and others set fire to a votive cross erected by local seamen in the year 1600, replicating the gesture he had performed 10 years before in 2002 and for which he had been acquitted. Repeating an often-heard justification for all sorts of anti-Christian garbage, "it's nothing against Christianity", he said, "it's a 'work of art'".

In the cemetery of Canohès, France, four Christian graves were vandalized and covered with anti-Christian slogans.

In Bologna, Italy, a Moroccan student approached the faithful attending the procession of Corpus Domini and shouted "You're all a flock of sheep, you'll go to hell!" He was charged with offending people and a religious faith.

In Clouzeaux, France, the Church of the Bon Pasteur was set fire to in broad daylight. The fire was lit in three different places and caused immense damage. The altar was totally destroyed, electrical wires pulled out of the wall, crucifixes, pews, chairs, panels, chandeliers toppled and broken, holy water fonts, extremely precious vestments, and many other religious objects completely ruined. Apparently it was three local children, aged 14, 13 and 12, who caused damage of 50,000-70,000 euros.

Still in France, three men entered the Church of Cruseilles on Holy Saturday and set fire to leaflets, prayer and hymn books. The cloth covering an altar was also burned and the main altar damaged.

More cemetery vandalism in France, in Sussargues, where graves were covered with anti-Christian writings and crucifixes were turned upside down, and church vandalism in Paris.

In Duisburg, Germany, churches were attacked over the New Year with stones, firecrackers, rockets, causing tens of thousands of euros' worth of damage. The congregants said that this was not the first time.

The main server of the Catholic Church in France was hijacked by a Muslim Algerian hacker who took control of a total of 475 French websites, many Catholic, the content of which he replaced with the message "No God But Allah and Mohammed is Messenger Of Allah".

This tops it all. In Nimes, France, people who had attended a Catholic festival were leaving in cars and buses when young Arab-Muslims from the neighboring estate started to throw stones at their vehicles coming from the sanctuary. The event organisers were forced to arrange a diversion to a different route to protect the occupants of the vehicles from the savage attacks, which continued.

In Nice, France, the traditional, annual Catholic procession for the Feast of the Assumption of Mary, celebrated throughout the Catholic world on August 15 but by the parish of Our Lady of the Assumption in Nice on August 14 evening, is now under police protection. During the last procession the entire route, 400 meters long, was lined by police. Who the faithful need protection from can be guessed when we know that Nice has a large Muslim population, who has been holding its prayers every Friday for years, illegally occupying public streets with impunity.

To remain in Nice, one of its churches received the dubious honor of being adorned with a huge Algerian flag on the front, covering the words "Saint Peter".

Watch this video translated by Islam versus Europe (IVE) about the many attacks committed against churches and cemeteries all over France in the first half of 2011, but prepare to be upset.

In Milbertshofen, Munich, Germany, a Catholic church has been the object of a continuous aggressive campaign for more than a year, with services disrupted, walls smeared, holy water receptacles filled with urine. Things have been set on fire, and tiles torn down from the roof; consequently it rained inside, with risk of damage to the almost 500-year-old tableau. The culprits are the neighborhood's youths and even children, almost entirely from a migrant background. A local social worker says that the youths are becoming more radical and the attacks are increasingly religiously motivated. (This video was also translated by IVE.)

Another video shows St Calogero Church in Agrigento, Sicily, Italy, after Ales Halid, a drunken immigrant from Ghana already known to the police for other crimes, entered the church shouting in Arabic and smashed a small black statue of the saint against a wall. The man was so agitated that it took four police officers to restrain him before arrest. Two officers got injured and Halid also damaged the police car.

"Now we have to understand what drove this man to act in such an ugly manner" the video says, but it inadvertently hints at an answer when it adds that the attack took place "during the festivities dedicated to the Monaco Turco [Turkish Monk, a reference to St Calogero] worshipped by the people of Agrigento, saint who has been acclaimed by Bishop Montenegro as a model of integration among peoples." Maybe Halid did not want "integration", and particularly objected to a Turkish Christian monk called "the black saint".

Notice that none of the Italian media reporting this called the man "Muslim". This is the usual media line, which the president of France's National Council of Muslim Faith for some reason thought in need of being reinforced when last week he asked journalists that, in case of aggressions, the religion of neither victim nor aggressor should be mentioned.

In the cemetery of Belleville-sur-Meuse, France, the bronze statue of Christ carrying the cross was broken and fifteen graves were desecrated.

In Burgos, Spain, the two statues of St Peter and St Lawrence of the 13th-century Gothic church of San Esteban were beheaded. Police were puzzled by this attack against a place of worship, which is also an architecture jewel and an important cultural and historical heritage. The main hypothesis was that it was an act of vandalism because, if it had been a robbery, the thieves would not have damaged the statues. The church's parish priest said this was "the first time" an attack on San Esteban had ever occurred in its 8 centuries of existence.

A few years ago, 57-year-old Canon Michael Ainsworth was beaten up in his own east London churchyard by three Muslim youths who caused him serious injuries. The attacks on vicars or churches were so frequent in that parish with a large Bangladeshi Muslim population that they prompted Melanie Phillips to write: "Indeed, there appear to have been many attacks by Muslims who are clearly intent on turning east London into a no-go area for Christians".

The Telegraph wrote: "A survey of London clergy by National Churchwatch, which provides personal safety advice, found that nearly half said they had been attacked in the previous 12 months. The organisation suggested that vicars should consider taking off their dog collars when they are on their own."

The two facts that France has the lion's share of these less than edifying episodes and that, with 7.5 per cent of its population being Muslim, has the highest percentage of Muslims among Western European countries seem to go hand in hand rather well.

I could go on but you've got the idea of the current trend. This is only the tip of the iceberg.

Enza Ferreri is an Italian-born, London-based author and journalist. She has been a London correspondent for several Italian magazines and newspapers, including Panorama, L'Espresso, La Repubblica.
Posted by Robert on July 21, 2012 7:22 AM
Prov 4: For they sleep not, except they have done mischief; and their sleep is taken away, unless they cause some to fall. Eccl. 8:11 Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil.
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Re: Christians in Mid east.

Postby katsung47 » 08/ 02/ 12 8:18 pm

Robert Fisk on Syria

Then there's that neighbouring country which owes us so much gratitude: Iraq. Last week, it suffered in one day 29 bombing attacks in 19 cities, killing 111 civilian and wounding another 235. The same day, Syria's bloodbath consumed about the same number of innocents. But Iraq was "down the page" from Syria, buried "below the fold", as we journalists say; because, of course, we gave freedom to Iraq, Jeffersonian democracy, etc, etc, didn't we? So this slaughter to the east of Syria didn't have quite the same impact, did it? Nothing we did in 2003 led to Iraq's suffering today. Right?

http://russianfreedomforum.lefora.com/2 ... -on-syria/
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Re: Christians in Mid east.

Postby katsung47 » 08/ 17/ 12 2:52 pm

Syria 'Friends' Fuel Murder with Promises of Weapons for Rebels

by grtv



Syria's President says countries like the US, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey are hindering peace in his country by supporting those he calls 'terrorists'.

Bashar al-Assad accused Washington of being partially responsible for the deaths of innocent civilians by partnering with the rebels. The Syrian army have started large-scale drills simulating defense against outside attacks.

Some opposition leaders previously appealed to the West for foreign intervention against the regime.

But as Maria Finoshina reports from Syria, many in the country are fearing for their lives if the rebel forces get what they want.

http://tv.globalresearch.ca/2012/07/syr ... ons-rebels
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Re: Christians in Mid east.

Postby Alec Bachlow » 08/ 17/ 12 5:55 pm

Just as our old establishment waved away boat loads of Jews prior to the holocaust..It appears that anti-Christian elites are now repeating history and turning a blind eye to the early stages of genocide put in motion by the Islamic fascists. What is the west going to do? Are they going to wait for 60 years and show the horrors of the Christian holocaust? Then say "never again" _ There had better be some early action this time...if not this will proceed into full scale horror- and GOD himself will curse the west with an eternal entrenchment of Muslim invaders who grow bolder by the year...House guests who look upon us as sickly and weak creatures that refuse to life a finger for our own.
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Re: Christians in Mid east.

Postby Edward Kennedy » 08/ 17/ 12 8:39 pm

These Christians are genuine refugees, bring them here, and add to them the White population of South Africa and Rhodesia who are being murdered and persecuted by black bigotted ingrate racists.

Halt all immigration from Africa with the exceptions above...ditto for muslims.

We would get productive people who would not be leeches and who would not destabilize the nation.

Political correctness can flock off.
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