HRC Complaint Defense Fund (Now Open for donations)

[The Crusader]

In spite of the disinfomation/opinion a certain public servant has posted here on the nature of the CHRC, I think this will go nowhere.

Even with the absence of the need for provable damages, ad with reverse onus it is ludicrous to think that even the paper grinders at the CHRC would possibly string together a logical argument as to how this Gentes er bent er whatever flake could be directly discriminated by the posts cited or the existence of FD....tempest in a tea pot that they must let grind through the process...if you look like you're prepared to cut the CHRC a new one in a legitimate court (appelate court and the SCC) they will drop it like a stone.

This is hard to argue in my unprofessional opinion considering it is a Kangaroo Court where the truth is not a defense.

My gut keeps saying "don't enter at all costs"

[Connie Fournier]

WylonMackenxie wrote:

and only on the proviso that you sue the ass off that insipid commie flake when this is tossed.

I am not sure if WLM said this in jest, but I think it should seriously be considered. I would not want other flakes watching us band together get any funny idea in their brain about their fifteen minutes of fame or earning a quick buck. I would seriously like to see some type of response as mentioned in the quote.

You betcha! That is a no-brainer!!

[Mr. Valentine]

Heck, I don't even agree with a lot of what is posted on FD (of course there is an element I DO agree with), but I donated the very small amount I could afford, out of principle..

This forum has allowed WIDELY varying opinions with VERY little censorship.. the forum owners put their money where their mouth is.

It also is a travesty of justice for the state to censor anybody with these hideous kangaroo courts.

[nickjbor]

I've had money troubles as of late but hopefully they are to clear up. if they do and if this is still an issue I can send along some funds. remember friends - this might be a long fight, part of the left's strategy is a war of attrition, if they can make us burn our hard earned cash from our pockes, while they use the rest of our hard earned cash from thier tax reserves, then they've won. if I do get my house in order, I might be able to start sending constant donations, something like $10 a paycheque. might not be much but it'll add up

as for wide viewpoints, both bill and I have pushed the line of what's acceptable, and we both stepped over it once, but both of us had people come to the table and say "hey, I might not agree with them, but they are certainly interesting to debate with". so unlike any other forum I've ever been to. there's a real sence of community here.

[bulldog905]

I've had money troubles as of late but hopefully they are to clear up. if they do and if this is still an issue I can send along some funds. remember friends - this might be a long fight, part of the left's strategy is a war of attrition, if they can make us burn our hard earned cash from our pockes, while they use the rest of our hard earned cash from thier tax reserves, then they've won. if I do get my house in order, I might be able to start sending constant donations, something like $10 a paycheque. might not be much but it'll add up

as for wide viewpoints, both bill and I have pushed the line of what's acceptable, and we both stepped over it once, but both of us had people come to the table and say "hey, I might not agree with them, but they are certainly interesting to debate with". so unlike any other forum I've ever been to. there's a real sence of community here.

It's not the size of the donation, Nick.

It's the thought.

Some people cannot afford anything(I've been in that situation at various points in my life).

$10 from some people is like much more than from other people, relatively speaking.

[Faramir]

We just received a pledge for $250.

That brings the total to:

$500

Now thats more like it .I will match that. Anyone care to match my 250?

I'll match your $250 and raise you $10, $260.

EdS, having Doug Christie as a lawyer isn't worth the long-run stain it would leave on FD. He is proud of his associations with and awards received from assorted "free speech" groups of the David Duke type. Years ago I witnessed one of his anti-Semitic rants at a rally in Edmonton. He poisons everything he touches.

I was wondering....I was first attracted to Doug when he was running the Western Concept Party. Heard him on the air but he was great. His involvement in these neo-Nazi cases is a new discovery. I would be curious some of what he said in Edmonton?

[Faramir]

I've had money troubles as of late but hopefully they are to clear up. if they do and if this is still an issue I can send along some funds. remember friends - this might be a long fight, part of the left's strategy is a war of attrition, if they can make us burn our hard earned cash from our pockes, while they use the rest of our hard earned cash from thier tax reserves, then they've won. if I do get my house in order, I might be able to start sending constant donations, something like $10 a paycheque. might not be much but it'll add up

as for wide viewpoints, both bill and I have pushed the line of what's acceptable, and we both stepped over it once, but both of us had people come to the table and say "hey, I might not agree with them, but they are certainly interesting to debate with". so unlike any other forum I've ever been to. there's a real sence of community here.

For now let me committ to $50 I can send in the mail. I am in the same boat you are, into my overdraft right now ....

[EdS]

EdS, having Doug Christie as a lawyer isn't worth the long-run stain it would leave on FD. He is proud of his associations with and awards received from assorted "free speech" groups of the David Duke type. Years ago I witnessed one of his anti-Semitic rants at a rally in Edmonton. He poisons everything he touches.

I couldn't agree more. I don't think Connie is going with Doug Christie. I am well aware of his "activism". I merely provided an alternative, just in case. I think they may go with Barbara Kulaszka.

[Faramir]

EdS, having Doug Christie as a lawyer isn't worth the long-run stain it would leave on FD. He is proud of his associations with and awards received from assorted "free speech" groups of the David Duke type. Years ago I witnessed one of his anti-Semitic rants at a rally in Edmonton. He poisons everything he touches.

I couldn't agree more. I don't think Connie is going with Doug Christie. I am well aware of his "activism". I merely provided an alternative, just in case. I think they may go with Barbara Kulaszka.

Ooh...you may want to google her. But right now maybe is a time to seek allies, and if its would a Nazi defender, so be it?

I gather then Mark and Connie are going to get a lawyer before responding?

[zoofer]

Bill, can you not sue and recover your costs if the complaint is found to be invalid? There isn't any way the government should pay for the persecution and burdensome financial hardships that can be inflicted by vengeful *ssholes in their malicious pursuits.

No. There is no redress unless the laws were recently changed.

"BC Press council lawyer Roger McConchie stated that the BC Human Rights Code is the most significant legislative infringement of press freedom in the history of BC, and nothing like it has been seen since the province joined Confederation in 1871."

Look what they did to Doug Collins and the North Shore News before his death.
I believe the legal defence bill was over $200,000. $150,000 contributed by North shore citizens.

"Free speech has always had a bad name. It had a bad name when Luther nailed his thesis to he door of Wittenberg Cathedral. It had a bad name when John Milton wrote that Truth and Falsehood should grapple freely. And when John Tyndale was burned at the stake for translating the Bible into English. The peasants couldn't be trusted with it. Who knew what ideas they might get? The Spanish Inquisition had no time for free speech either......Oh, there was another chap who got a bad time for speaking out. I think his name was Jesus."


Doug Collins. 'Here we go again.'

[EdS]

EdS, having Doug Christie as a lawyer isn't worth the long-run stain it would leave on FD. He is proud of his associations with and awards received from assorted "free speech" groups of the David Duke type. Years ago I witnessed one of his anti-Semitic rants at a rally in Edmonton. He poisons everything he touches.

I couldn't agree more. I don't think Connie is going with Doug Christie. I am well aware of his "activism". I merely provided an alternative, just in case. I think they may go with Barbara Kulaszka.

Ooh...you may want to google her. But right now maybe is a time to seek allies, and if its would a Nazi defender, so be it?
I gather then Mark and Connie are going to get a lawyer before responding?

http://www.freedominion.ca/phpBB2/viewt ... 86#1019286

And we've already had an email discussion about this.

[Jean]

Right now I have no money but i'll send $100 this Friday (July 27) when I'll get my pay cheque

It's very nice to see the amount rising so quickly!

[Connie Fournier]

The total is $1890

Thank you!

PLEASE don't cause yourselves financial hardship by donating. I know this is a weird thing to write on a fundraising thread, but you guys are like family to us and we care about your well-being.

I have no doubt that, together, we will get through this.

[Theresa]

nickjbor wrote:

I've had money troubles as of late but hopefully they are to clear up. if they do and if this is still an issue I can send along some funds. remember friends - this might be a long fight, part of the left's strategy is a war of attrition, if they can make us burn our hard earned cash from our pockes, while they use the rest of our hard earned cash from thier tax reserves, then they've won. if I do get my house in order, I might be able to start sending constant donations, something like $10 a paycheque. might not be much but it'll add up

as for wide viewpoints, both bill and I have pushed the line of what's acceptable, and we both stepped over it once, but both of us had people come to the table and say "hey, I might not agree with them, but they are certainly interesting to debate with". so unlike any other forum I've ever been to. there's a real sence of community here.
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Never let financial hardships stop you from donating in fact these are the most important donations for two reasons. They add up quickly. Grassroots movements are financially successful because many give little, which adds up to the more the plenty given by a few.

When we are down and out, been there done that, the best thing you can do for yourself and others is to give your 10% to charity. God will take of the rest. Don't believe me try it. He never lets you down. Giving should always be given in spirit of love, so give to causes you are passionate about, that God will approve, and he will take of the rest.

Sorry for sounding preachy that is not my intent but it is my experience that giving is so important for so many reasons and it is the best guarantee that I know of to get out of the poor house.

[Theresa]

nickjbor wrote:

I've had money troubles as of late but hopefully they are to clear up. if they do and if this is still an issue I can send along some funds. remember friends - this might be a long fight, part of the left's strategy is a war of attrition, if they can make us burn our hard earned cash from our pockes, while they use the rest of our hard earned cash from thier tax reserves, then they've won. if I do get my house in order, I might be able to start sending constant donations, something like $10 a paycheque. might not be much but it'll add up

as for wide viewpoints, both bill and I have pushed the line of what's acceptable, and we both stepped over it once, but both of us had people come to the table and say "hey, I might not agree with them, but they are certainly interesting to debate with". so unlike any other forum I've ever been to. there's a real sence of community here.
_________________

Never let financial hardships stop you from donating in fact these are the most important donations for two reasons. They add up quickly. Grassroots movements are financially successful because many give little, which adds up to the more the plenty given by a few.

When we are down and out, been there done that, the best thing you can do for yourself and others is to give your 10% to charity. God will take of the rest. Don't believe me try it. He never lets you down. Giving should always be given in spirit of love, so give to causes you are passionate about, that God will approve, and he will take of the rest.

Sorry for sounding preachy that is not my intent but it is my experience that giving is so important for so many reasons and it is the best guarantee that I know of to get out of the poor house.