Harry Abrams - Spying on Free Dominion since 2007

[muncher]

I think the left wingnuts are the real anti semites. Except they call it anti Zionism.

[Connie Fournier]

I still don't understand ezra though..... he can be so powerful at times yet he still licks the boots of his oppressors from time to time.

Well, unfortunately, pointing that out has earned me (and FD) the status of persona non grata with Ezra Levant and other assorted bloggers.

That's OK, though. Ezra is doing a terrific job exposing the Human Rights Commission sham for what it is, and I'm glad he's doing it. He can continue attacking Jennifer Lynch and Sandy Kozak and the gang while we move up the food chain.

Works for me!

[Narrow Back]

What was Harry Abrams' point in signing up at Free Dominion? He can't say it was because he thought FD was anti-Jew or anti-Isreal, the website and its operators are very pro-Isreal. What did he hope to accomplish by registering here under a pseudonym?

The whole nest of vipers will eventually be exposed and held accountable.

Did he sign up so that he could see people's profiles? I'm not sure but most places have limited access to what non-members can see.

He may have signed up to use the private message system. Does anyone remember receiving any PMs from Brian_Esker?

There was one poster that both Connie and I commented on, "Peanut Butter". I would look into him or her very closely. Peanut Butter only used the PM system. The scum asked me about the Turner Diaries and included dates and times in their reply. Very odd.

[Connie Fournier]

I think the left wingnuts are the real anti semites. Except they call it anti Zionism.

Of course they are! Those idiots like Dr. Dawg and those losers on Anti-Racist Canada spend all of their time trying to "prove" that Marc Lemire is a "Nazi", then they turn around and do something like join a march against Israel with the Aryan Guard, or protest Carleton University's restriction of "Israel Anti-Apartheid Week" posters.

They are so intellectually stunted that they can't even see their own hypocrisy.

[Edward Kennedy]

I think the left wingnuts are the real anti semites. Except they call it anti Zionism.

Of course they are! Those idiots like Dr. Dawg and those losers on Anti-Racist Canada spend all of their time trying to "prove" that Marc Lemire is a "Nazi", then they turn around and do something like join a march against Israel with the Aryan Guard, or protest Carleton University's restriction of "Israel Anti-Apartheid Week" posters.

They are so intellectually stunted that they can't even see their own hypocrisy.

That is what happens when idiots talk just to hear their head roar.

[OfficialPro]

I'd assume dude thought this place was rife with antisemites, given the reputation of FD as 'right wing'.

Many liberal jews erroneously believe that all right wingers hate Jews.

[Edward Kennedy]

I'd assume dude thought this place was rife with antisemites, given the reputation of FD as 'right wing'.

Many liberal jews erroneously believe that all right wingers hate Jews.

Well I hate jews, blacks and crackers, but only if they are lieberal. I am an equal opportunity and non prejudicial hater who hates fascist lieberals of any age, creed, color, religion, etc.

I would not want to violate the nhuman rights of any lieberal fascist so I hate them all equally.

[J.B. Stone]

There is a whole network of these people and they have been very active for years in attacking our basic freedoms and liberties.

Their names are continuing to surface and more and more dots are being connected. At one time, with an arrogance brought on by an ignorance of technology, they believed they could get away with anything.

Soon they will be introduced to the realities of our time. Justice will be served.

What I find FASCINATING......is that these "people" can ONLY operate in the shadows.....UNTIL, of course, they have managed to drag out the WORST in others.

If you look at that from a purely ideological stance.......what KIND of "morals" or "efficacy" does that bespeak.........



What does it say of the "justice process" in CANADA....???

[fourhorses]

That's interesting ...

It looks like FD's first encounter with the Radical Press was the re-posting and discussion of Topham's post <a href=http://www.freedominion.com.pa/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=1121905> Killing the Hundredth Monkey </a>. That was January '08. Also looks like that was roughly Topham's initial posting time frame on FD before he was banned, so it couldn't be that "Esker" was surfing FD looking for more of Topham's rants about zionism back in '07 or had registered with FD in order to refute / debate Topham in FD's open forum. Flipping back, looks like these was no debate b/n Topham and any kind of "Esker" either - mostly POD, Maikeru, Cdn Republican and a small handful of regular posters debating with him.

Another major event with "Esker" was the Abrams-B'nai Brith CHRC complaint against PEJ (Peace Earth Justice) in the spring of '07. Abrams-BB launched their complaint vs PEJ on the basis of criticism of citizens of Israel. For the respondent, Ingmar Lee was the editor and Alan Rycroft was the publisher. Does anyone recall those identities on FD ? Or does anyone recall much in the way of posts on FD about PEJ and Abrams-BB CHRC complaint back in '07?

Alternatively, did any poster offend citizens of Israel or question anything going on with Israel's foreign policy back in 07?

[Peter O'Donnell]

About the only group in the free world with a more pro-Israel stand than Free Dominion is whoever Benjamin Netanyahu had lunch with this week.

I am sure that in a pinch, we can get Arthur Topham himself to testify that we are a raging hotbed of Zionism.

Now, to be balanced, I do recall some range of opinions back around 2007, not all of our regular posters are as pro-Israel as let's say the admins and yours truly have proven to be, but with one or two exceptions, criticism of Israel on this forum is fairly subtle, I don't think that you would often read the sorts of diatribes here that are stock and trade of Rabble and other leftist chat sites.

Perhaps Harry Abrams should infiltrate them if he's looking for Jew-haters.

But on the larger question of "why FD?" I suppose it's a reflex, here we have uncontrollable conservative thought spewing forth without even the pretence of a university sociology filter, and this could endanger all that is good and holy about Liberal Canada, where elitists get to determine what the great unwashed should be thinking, and use the Sunday papers to inform them about it.

That process has always worked well for the "official Jews" (Ezra's phrase) and so why rock the boat?

Meanwhile, there is no mystery about FD being on the outs with some of the free speech crusaders, it's the usual CPC divide between fiscon-libertarian and social consevative at work, juiced up by our rather unsubtle critiques of Harper's leadership over this way (not entirely shared by all, obviously).

Being a bit of a cynic, I would point to the truism that revolution usually involves one elite displacing another elite, and you can detect a certain amount of elitism among some of the leading critics of Section 13, the CHRC and Richard Warman etc. This elitism takes the form of "we don't want that Liberal elite running things, why not turn to our elite-in-waiting instead?" ... and this may in fact be Harper's own assessment of the situation. FD is the black sheep of that school of thought, because one thing is for certain, most of us will never find our way by accident or design into any elite. As one of our long-time posters used to say in his signature line, "I would not wish to be a member of any club that would have me."

[wildernessvoice]

"The complaint was submitted by Harry Abrams and the League for Human Rights of B’nai Brith Canada and appears to be based that he and his website, are contriving to “promote ongoing hatred affecting persons identifiable as Jews and/or as citizens of Israel”.

I have no problem being critical of persons identifiable as Jews! Ask me what I think of Ben Bernake, Geither, Volkner or Alan GreenSCUM. I find it a bit of a laugh that they are all money changers. It wouldn't be the first time that they have been cast out of the temple by Somebody that had critical "thoughts" towards their behaviour. Let me go as far as to say that these guys are an abomination to the Nation.

That said, the earliest Bible lesson as a little kid that I can remember is the whole bit I will bless those who bless and I will curse those who curse thee.

No mention here that the God's Chosen People are to be above any type of critical comment.
If memory serves me right there were 12 tribes until the Nameless One expressed some critical "thoughts" towards them and then there were only 2 tribes.

soooo...Harry, try reporting the Supreme Being to the CHRC, but in the meantine/- GET A LIFE!!!

[Fabulous Fred]

I still don't understand ezra though..... he can be so powerful at times yet he still licks the boots of his oppressors from time to time.

Well, unfortunately, pointing that out has earned me (and FD) the status of persona non grata with Ezra Levant and other assorted bloggers.

That's OK, though. Ezra is doing a terrific job exposing the Human Rights Commission sham for what it is, and I'm glad he's doing it. He can continue attacking Jennifer Lynch and Sandy Kozak and the gang while we move up the food chain.

Works for me!

How much of that is ego?

Ezra runs his own show on his own terms and I have not noticed that he has allied himself with anyone else.

It was stated during the last election that his work for the cpc would reap rewards that people of little faith (such as myself) could not foresee. ..... well????? things are getting worse not better under the harper's watch.

F.D. has done a lot of spade work and connected many dots. The contributions of this forum may not be credited by those with much larger media profiles but the work done by the Fourniers and a few others (won't name names in case I miss one but they know who they are) is substantial.

I wish Ezra every success in spite of not having any understanding of his motivation.

[J.B. Stone]

What was Harry Abrams' point in signing up at Free Dominion? He can't say it was because he thought FD was anti-Jew or anti-Isreal, the website and its operators are very pro-Isreal. What did he hope to accomplish by registering here under a pseudonym?

The whole nest of vipers will eventually be exposed and held accountable.

Did he sign up so that he could see people's profiles? I'm not sure but most places have limited access to what non-members can see.

He may have signed up to use the private message system. Does anyone remember receiving any PMs from Brian_Esker?

There was one poster that both Connie and I commented on, "Peanut Butter". I would look into him or her very closely. Peanut Butter only used the PM system. The scum asked me about the Turner Diaries and included dates and times in their reply. Very odd.

I had a "confrontation" with this dimwit over his/her FIRST post as I recall.....

[fourhorses]

"The complaint was submitted by Harry Abrams and the League for Human Rights of B’nai Brith Canada and appears to be based that he and his website, are contriving to “promote ongoing hatred affecting persons identifiable as Jews and/or as citizens of Israel”.

I have no problem being critical of persons identifiable as Jews! Ask me what I think of Ben Bernake, Geither, Volkner or Alan GreenSCUM. I find it a bit of a laugh that they are all money changers. It wouldn't be the first time that they have been cast out of the temple by Somebody that had critical "thoughts" towards their behaviour. Let me go as far as to say that these guys are an abomination to the Nation.

That said, the earliest Bible lesson as a little kid that I can remember is the whole bit I will bless those who bless and I will curse those who curse thee.

No mention here that the God's Chosen People are to be above any type of critical comment.
If memory serves me right there were 12 tribes until the Nameless One expressed some critical "thoughts" towards them and then there were only 2 tribes.

soooo...Harry, try reporting the Supreme Being to the CHRC, but in the meantine/- GET A LIFE!!!

If he has a beef with the "promote ongoing hatred affecting persons identifiable as Jews" - that's one thing. But the second part " ....and/or as citizens of Israel” - is something that I take exception to. Israel has no higher standing than America, England, Portugal, Darfur, Russia, Tibet, Taiwan etc. To try to extract a ruling from the CHRT that Israel or any other specific country, gets some sort of special status is taking us way down a slippery slope.

What's next - Saudi Arabia gets special status when there is a complaint filed that includes the " .....and/or as citizens of Saudi Arabia" - you know where that will go. And what is to stop it? If a precedent is set with "citizens of Israel", how would the CHRC/T be able to deny cries from radical Islam to have the same status?

[Maikeru]

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