If it's not worth it's own thread but it's on the election plant it here.
He was spitting mad over the Conservatives' efforts to attract support from various ethnic minorities around Canada. What really got McGuinty going was that some ridings were labelled "very ethnic" in Tory strategy papers. The Liberal MP demanded to know what "very ethnic" means. He then went on a rhetorical rampage against the Conservatives.
"This is deeply offensive - deeply offensive - to our new, newer, and newest Canadians who live in this country. It's deeply offensive because a Canadian is a Canadian is a Canadian. And what these Republicans have done here - because that's what this is; it's a Republican tactic from the United States - these Reform-Republicans have divided Canada into segments in a way that we have never seen before. The proof's in the pudding of the documents that have been released that they treat Canadians as commodities. They've commodified here electioneering to the point here where it is now offending Canadian citizenship," the outraged McGuinty told assembled media in the foyer of the House of Commons.
The trouble is, those words are a little rich coming from a Liberal MP. I mean, never mind the obvious pandering to new, newer, and newest Canadians - a distinction that seems alright to McGuinty as long as you don't refer to ethnic Canadians. Never mind that his fellow Liberal MP Navdeep Bains admits he has no problem with terms like Indo-Canadian and Greek-Canadian, while ethnic Canadian is offensive. Has McGuinty totally missed what his party has done in the past?
Here are some examples:
Last November, Brampton-Springdale MP Ruby Dhalla issued a <a href=http://rubydhalla.liberal.ca/news-releases/dhalla-advocates-for-the-vulnerable-in-her-constituency/>news release</a> that twice referred to "ethnic communities" being hurt by the census changes the federal government had made. Need we really ask pedantic questions now about what Ms Dhalla meant by that? Do we really think she meant that "ethnic communities" were any less Canadian than other communities?
In October, 2008 Liberal pollster <a href=http://www.triec.ca/news/story/52>Michael Marzolini</a> is quoted in the Globe and Mail as saying, "Every market segmentation you can find is important, be it ethnic background, income level, education, gender, home ownership." He was talking about the Grits conducting polls in minority groups' languages in various ridings. Does McGuinty really believe the Conservative strategy is unique?
At a <a href=http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/008784.html>Liberal candidate training session</a> in May, 2008 the Liberal Party of Canada included an agenda item that read "Targeting by Ethnicity" under the subject Voter Contact. What does McGuinty think about that?
In January, 2007 the Ontario Liberals bought ads <a href=http://www.canada.com/topics/news/politics/story.html?id=5459dfd1-d2f6-43b5-9cd5-5c43e939f060&k=60599>targeted at ethnic minorities</a>. The ads went on Omni and Fairchild Television. Omni is Toronto's multicultural television outlet. Fairchild broadcasts in Chinese. Does David McGuinty think his brother and Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty is treating Canadians as a commodity?
In August, 2003 former <a href=http://www.immigrationreform.ca/doc/2010/Ethno-politics.pdf>Liberal Party of Canada President Stephen LeDrew</a> responded to criticism that his party was deliberately trying to attract people of Chinese and Sikh origin by wiriting that the Liberals are "the party of immigrants." Does that worry David McGuinty? Is that divisive?
So, McGuinty can level whatever accusations he wants. However, he doesn't have the luxury of being selective in his outrage. Either he hates what his own party does as much as what the Conservatives do, or he accepts that electioneering is marketing - and marketing requires that you know your customer.
From <a href=http://www.newstalk1010.com/blogs/danielproussalidis/blogentry.aspx?BlogEntryID=10212091>NEWSTALK1010</a>
Dogpatch wrote:Let's put the fiberal party under a microscope
I'll start
Not so long ago, Liberal David McFibber, oops, I mean David McGuinty ranted about the CPC targeting "ethnic" votersHe was spitting mad over the Conservatives' efforts to attract support from various ethnic minorities around Canada. What really got McGuinty going was that some ridings were labelled "very ethnic" in Tory strategy papers. The Liberal MP demanded to know what "very ethnic" means. He then went on a rhetorical rampage against the Conservatives.
"This is deeply offensive - deeply offensive - to our new, newer, and newest Canadians who live in this country. It's deeply offensive because a Canadian is a Canadian is a Canadian. And what these Republicans have done here - because that's what this is; it's a Republican tactic from the United States - these Reform-Republicans have divided Canada into segments in a way that we have never seen before. The proof's in the pudding of the documents that have been released that they treat Canadians as commodities. They've commodified here electioneering to the point here where it is now offending Canadian citizenship," the outraged McGuinty told assembled media in the foyer of the House of Commons.
The trouble is, those words are a little rich coming from a Liberal MP. I mean, never mind the obvious pandering to new, newer, and newest Canadians - a distinction that seems alright to McGuinty as long as you don't refer to ethnic Canadians. Never mind that his fellow Liberal MP Navdeep Bains admits he has no problem with terms like Indo-Canadian and Greek-Canadian, while ethnic Canadian is offensive. Has McGuinty totally missed what his party has done in the past?
Here are some examples:
Last November, Brampton-Springdale MP Ruby Dhalla issued a <a href=http://rubydhalla.liberal.ca/news-releases/dhalla-advocates-for-the-vulnerable-in-her-constituency/>news release</a> that twice referred to "ethnic communities" being hurt by the census changes the federal government had made. Need we really ask pedantic questions now about what Ms Dhalla meant by that? Do we really think she meant that "ethnic communities" were any less Canadian than other communities?
In October, 2008 Liberal pollster <a href=http://www.triec.ca/news/story/52>Michael Marzolini</a> is quoted in the Globe and Mail as saying, "Every market segmentation you can find is important, be it ethnic background, income level, education, gender, home ownership." He was talking about the Grits conducting polls in minority groups' languages in various ridings. Does McGuinty really believe the Conservative strategy is unique?
At a <a href=http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/008784.html>Liberal candidate training session</a> in May, 2008 the Liberal Party of Canada included an agenda item that read "Targeting by Ethnicity" under the subject Voter Contact. What does McGuinty think about that?
In January, 2007 the Ontario Liberals bought ads <a href=http://www.canada.com/topics/news/politics/story.html?id=5459dfd1-d2f6-43b5-9cd5-5c43e939f060&k=60599>targeted at ethnic minorities</a>. The ads went on Omni and Fairchild Television. Omni is Toronto's multicultural television outlet. Fairchild broadcasts in Chinese. Does David McGuinty think his brother and Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty is treating Canadians as a commodity?
In August, 2003 former <a href=http://www.immigrationreform.ca/doc/2010/Ethno-politics.pdf>Liberal Party of Canada President Stephen LeDrew</a> responded to criticism that his party was deliberately trying to attract people of Chinese and Sikh origin by wiriting that the Liberals are "the party of immigrants." Does that worry David McGuinty? Is that divisive?
So, McGuinty can level whatever accusations he wants. However, he doesn't have the luxury of being selective in his outrage. Either he hates what his own party does as much as what the Conservatives do, or he accepts that electioneering is marketing - and marketing requires that you know your customer.
From <a href=http://www.newstalk1010.com/blogs/danielproussalidis/blogentry.aspx?BlogEntryID=10212091>NEWSTALK1010</a>
styky wrote:Dogpatch wrote:Let's put the fiberal party under a microscope
I'll start
Not so long ago, Liberal David McFibber, oops, I mean David McGuinty ranted about the CPC targeting "ethnic" votersHe was spitting mad over the Conservatives' efforts to attract support from various ethnic minorities around Canada. What really got McGuinty going was that some ridings were labelled "very ethnic" in Tory strategy papers. The Liberal MP demanded to know what "very ethnic" means. He then went on a rhetorical rampage against the Conservatives.
"This is deeply offensive - deeply offensive - to our new, newer, and newest Canadians who live in this country. It's deeply offensive because a Canadian is a Canadian is a Canadian. And what these Republicans have done here - because that's what this is; it's a Republican tactic from the United States - these Reform-Republicans have divided Canada into segments in a way that we have never seen before. The proof's in the pudding of the documents that have been released that they treat Canadians as commodities. They've commodified here electioneering to the point here where it is now offending Canadian citizenship," the outraged McGuinty told assembled media in the foyer of the House of Commons.
The trouble is, those words are a little rich coming from a Liberal MP. I mean, never mind the obvious pandering to new, newer, and newest Canadians - a distinction that seems alright to McGuinty as long as you don't refer to ethnic Canadians. Never mind that his fellow Liberal MP Navdeep Bains admits he has no problem with terms like Indo-Canadian and Greek-Canadian, while ethnic Canadian is offensive. Has McGuinty totally missed what his party has done in the past?
Here are some examples:
Last November, Brampton-Springdale MP Ruby Dhalla issued a <a href=http://rubydhalla.liberal.ca/news-releases/dhalla-advocates-for-the-vulnerable-in-her-constituency/>news release</a> that twice referred to "ethnic communities" being hurt by the census changes the federal government had made. Need we really ask pedantic questions now about what Ms Dhalla meant by that? Do we really think she meant that "ethnic communities" were any less Canadian than other communities?
In October, 2008 Liberal pollster <a href=http://www.triec.ca/news/story/52>Michael Marzolini</a> is quoted in the Globe and Mail as saying, "Every market segmentation you can find is important, be it ethnic background, income level, education, gender, home ownership." He was talking about the Grits conducting polls in minority groups' languages in various ridings. Does McGuinty really believe the Conservative strategy is unique?
At a <a href=http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/008784.html>Liberal candidate training session</a> in May, 2008 the Liberal Party of Canada included an agenda item that read "Targeting by Ethnicity" under the subject Voter Contact. What does McGuinty think about that?
In January, 2007 the Ontario Liberals bought ads <a href=http://www.canada.com/topics/news/politics/story.html?id=5459dfd1-d2f6-43b5-9cd5-5c43e939f060&k=60599>targeted at ethnic minorities</a>. The ads went on Omni and Fairchild Television. Omni is Toronto's multicultural television outlet. Fairchild broadcasts in Chinese. Does David McGuinty think his brother and Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty is treating Canadians as a commodity?
In August, 2003 former <a href=http://www.immigrationreform.ca/doc/2010/Ethno-politics.pdf>Liberal Party of Canada President Stephen LeDrew</a> responded to criticism that his party was deliberately trying to attract people of Chinese and Sikh origin by wiriting that the Liberals are "the party of immigrants." Does that worry David McGuinty? Is that divisive?
So, McGuinty can level whatever accusations he wants. However, he doesn't have the luxury of being selective in his outrage. Either he hates what his own party does as much as what the Conservatives do, or he accepts that electioneering is marketing - and marketing requires that you know your customer.
From <a href=http://www.newstalk1010.com/blogs/danielproussalidis/blogentry.aspx?BlogEntryID=10212091>NEWSTALK1010</a>
Is that the same Ruby Dhalla that missed <a href=http://www.freedominion.com.pa/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=1600777#1600777>150 sittings of the house</a> in the last 2 years.
Dogpatch wrote:styky wrote:Dogpatch wrote:Let's put the fiberal party under a microscope
I'll start
Not so long ago, Liberal David McFibber, oops, I mean David McGuinty ranted about the CPC targeting "ethnic" votersHe was spitting mad over the Conservatives' efforts to attract support from various ethnic minorities around Canada. What really got McGuinty going was that some ridings were labelled "very ethnic" in Tory strategy papers. The Liberal MP demanded to know what "very ethnic" means. He then went on a rhetorical rampage against the Conservatives.
"This is deeply offensive - deeply offensive - to our new, newer, and newest Canadians who live in this country. It's deeply offensive because a Canadian is a Canadian is a Canadian. And what these Republicans have done here - because that's what this is; it's a Republican tactic from the United States - these Reform-Republicans have divided Canada into segments in a way that we have never seen before. The proof's in the pudding of the documents that have been released that they treat Canadians as commodities. They've commodified here electioneering to the point here where it is now offending Canadian citizenship," the outraged McGuinty told assembled media in the foyer of the House of Commons.
The trouble is, those words are a little rich coming from a Liberal MP. I mean, never mind the obvious pandering to new, newer, and newest Canadians - a distinction that seems alright to McGuinty as long as you don't refer to ethnic Canadians. Never mind that his fellow Liberal MP Navdeep Bains admits he has no problem with terms like Indo-Canadian and Greek-Canadian, while ethnic Canadian is offensive. Has McGuinty totally missed what his party has done in the past?
Here are some examples:
Last November, Brampton-Springdale MP Ruby Dhalla issued a <a href=http://rubydhalla.liberal.ca/news-releases/dhalla-advocates-for-the-vulnerable-in-her-constituency/>news release</a> that twice referred to "ethnic communities" being hurt by the census changes the federal government had made. Need we really ask pedantic questions now about what Ms Dhalla meant by that? Do we really think she meant that "ethnic communities" were any less Canadian than other communities?
In October, 2008 Liberal pollster <a href=http://www.triec.ca/news/story/52>Michael Marzolini</a> is quoted in the Globe and Mail as saying, "Every market segmentation you can find is important, be it ethnic background, income level, education, gender, home ownership." He was talking about the Grits conducting polls in minority groups' languages in various ridings. Does McGuinty really believe the Conservative strategy is unique?
At a <a href=http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/008784.html>Liberal candidate training session</a> in May, 2008 the Liberal Party of Canada included an agenda item that read "Targeting by Ethnicity" under the subject Voter Contact. What does McGuinty think about that?
In January, 2007 the Ontario Liberals bought ads <a href=http://www.canada.com/topics/news/politics/story.html?id=5459dfd1-d2f6-43b5-9cd5-5c43e939f060&k=60599>targeted at ethnic minorities</a>. The ads went on Omni and Fairchild Television. Omni is Toronto's multicultural television outlet. Fairchild broadcasts in Chinese. Does David McGuinty think his brother and Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty is treating Canadians as a commodity?
In August, 2003 former <a href=http://www.immigrationreform.ca/doc/2010/Ethno-politics.pdf>Liberal Party of Canada President Stephen LeDrew</a> responded to criticism that his party was deliberately trying to attract people of Chinese and Sikh origin by wiriting that the Liberals are "the party of immigrants." Does that worry David McGuinty? Is that divisive?
So, McGuinty can level whatever accusations he wants. However, he doesn't have the luxury of being selective in his outrage. Either he hates what his own party does as much as what the Conservatives do, or he accepts that electioneering is marketing - and marketing requires that you know your customer.
From <a href=http://www.newstalk1010.com/blogs/danielproussalidis/blogentry.aspx?BlogEntryID=10212091>NEWSTALK1010</a>
Is that the same Ruby Dhalla that missed <a href=http://www.freedominion.com.pa/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=1600777#1600777>150 sittings of the house</a> in the last 2 years.
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