2016 Rand Paul vs Jebb Bush?

[Charles J. White]

Now that it appears President Obama will be re-elected, and I hope the Ron Paul supporters either don't vote in the 2012 Presidential election, or vote Obama to deny America's Brian Mulroney the keys - it would allow The Tea Party movement to really fester and cause a showdown between Rand Paul and Jebb Bush in 2016 for the nomination. At some point Republocrats need to be confronted for their mistakes of claiming to be conservatives and leaving a mess behind like Bush Jr and Newt Romney.

Conservatism at some point needs to raise its head out of the sand! Here is hoping for 2016

[Red Green]

I could see Jeb Bush having the ego that it would take to run for POTUS thinking that people have forgotten how much they hate the Bushes.

Rand Paul will have to take over his father's organization which of course means he'll already have all the support he needs to run for POTUS.

[RedDog]

I could see Jeb. Very popular two term Governor of a key state. He also converted to Catholicism for his hispanic wife. Don't discount that factor in Florida, Texas or any other southern state. Hispanics are on the verge of overtaking blacks in the USA. They will adore Jeb.

[Red Green]

I could see Jeb. Very popular two term Governor of a key state. He also converted to Catholicism for his hispanic wife. Don't discount that factor in Florida, Texas or any other southern state. Hispanics are on the verge of overtaking blacks in the USA. They will adore Jeb.

Most Hispanics are Democrat, illegal or too busy to bother with voting. Not that that matters much. He could have the entire GOP Hispanic bloc and he would still lose. People here remember all too well Dubya, and his "No new taxes!" father and are none-too-anxious to see anyone from that family on the ballot at least for another generation.

[Hodgson]

Obama approval at 43%
Unemployment well above 8%
redistricting after the 2010 census

Romney is going to cake walk into the white house.

[Hodgson]

Obama barely beat McCain.
Obama has lost the hype and Romney will pull in Mormons and disillusioned democrats.

[Freedom Onion]

Obama barely beat McCain.
Obama has lost the hype and Romney will pull in Mormons and disillusioned democrats.

Unfortunately for the American public, it only takes 1% more than the next leading guy to be President, even if that means 59% of the country wants someone besides that one.

[free_life2]

Obama approval at 43%
Unemployment well above 8%
redistricting after the 2010 census

Romney is going to cake walk into the white house.

Lots of republicans will not hold their noses and vote for Mitt.

The media frenzy against Mitt will be ferocious and Obama will be re-sainted.

Ron Paul may run 3rd party and that changes everything.



Too much can happen between now and 2016 to call it just yet.

[Charles J. White]

Ron is staying in the race and building a national network so that his son Rand can complete the journey in 2016. I don't believe that Ron will run 3rd party because it would damage Rand's future within the fixed casino we call the Republocrats - by the same token, almost my entire family in Arizona, Texas, and New Mexico would vote for Ron Paul if chose to run 3rd party and rightly so.

The Republocrat eilites within the party will go with the big spending, big deficit ways of Jebb Bush over Rand Paul which means Rand will need to have his father's full organization in place from day 1 so that he can build it from there.

If Mitt Romney wins, Rand Paul's chances are done, and conservatism dies the day that America's Brian Mulroney takes the keys to the Whitehouse, so here is hoping President Obama takes it again!

[Hodgson]

It's not worth sacrificing everything for the sake of making an ideological point.
The US frankly can't afford another 4 years of Obama.

Romney isn't perfect,but he'll win because he needs to win.

[Charles J. White]

Why? Bush along with Obama caused America to become insolvent, they both nationalized economy and not one Republocrat said anything when it was Bush doing it...

Let the Republocrats control the house and the senate and walk the talk for a change, they can control the agenda not the President is they grew some balls and acted like men - right now the Republocrats are not ready for the big time, there is only a handful of Tea Party Rand Paul and Joe Walsh types elected. 2016 America will be primed for the Rand Paul revolution!

[Red Green]

It's not worth sacrificing everything for the sake of making an ideological point.
The US frankly can't afford another 4 years of Obama.

Romney isn't perfect,but he'll win because he needs to win.

The US can more afford another 4 years of Obama than they can of 16 more years of the same 'ol same 'ol. With Romney in the WH we face either 8 more years of big-spending police-state Repbulicanism, or 4 years of it and another 4 years of Hillary Clinton. Who knows after that. So if you want to play the long game to win, keep Obama in there for 4 more years and set the Republicans up to offer a real small-govt opposition.

[Hodgson]

It's attitudes like yours that gave the Liberals 4 mandates.

Obama has done enough. Hoping for GOP failure so a Ron Paul utopia can be created is the equivalent of being a student leftist sticking to the man.

[Red Green]

It's attitudes like yours that gave the Liberals 4 mandates.

Obama has done enough. Hoping for GOP failure so a Ron Paul utopia can be created is the equivalent of being a student leftist sticking to the man.

I'm OK with that.

Keep in mind the only time we had some level of fiscal sanity with the Federal govt here is when we had Clinton in the WH and a Republican majority in the house and a tie in the senate. Things went to hell when we got Dubya in there.

[Charles J. White]

Look I agree, it would be better for Obama to win the whitehouse and the Republocrats to hold on to the senate and the house - it would get things lined up right perfect for Rand Paul. 2016 will be a fight between conservatives backing Rand and economic central planning socialists around Jebb Bush