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[Ogopogo]

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HuffPo Attacks Family Research Council As 'Hate Group' Less Than Three Hours After Shooting

By Paul Wilson | August 15, 2012 | 15:38
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Even after the shooting of a security guard at the Family Research Council, the Huffington Post can’t stop slamming the pro-family organization as a “hate group.” The Huffington Post waited less than three hours before publishing an article which complained about “the Family Research Council, which the Southern Poverty Law Center deems a hate group.”

Contributor Waymon Hudson, in an August 15 article titled “Paul Ryan: Poster Boy of Today’s Extreme GOP,” posted an attack on Republican Vice Presidential candidate Paul Ryan which slammed the Family Research Council on 1:36 PM – less than three hours after the shooting, which took place around 10:45 AM. Attacking Ryan as an extremist, Hudson complained that Ryan “has agreed to address the Family Research Council, which the Southern Poverty Law Center deems a hate group, at the organizations annual Voters Value Summit in September.”

The Huffington Post’s job is to spin the news for all kinds of left-wing causes – attacks on the Family Research Council are normal for them. But couldn’t they at least have waited a day before repeating the charge of the left-wing hacks at the Southern Poverty Law Center and attacking a group whose members were targeted by a gunman less than three hours earlier?

At the Huffington Post, the campaign against conservative hate groups doesn’t stop even less than three hours after conservative “hate groups” are physically attacked.

[H/T Legal Insurrection]
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The Family Research Council Shooting and "Hate Groups"

By David Weigel

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Posted Wednesday, Aug. 15, 2012, at 2:58 PM ET
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My policy on any shooting:

1) Don't assume any hate group connections or political motivations until we find out more about the witness. You don't want to wind up like Brian Ross.

2) Do keep track of how the shooting's being politicized. I say "how," because it's inevitable, and in some cases it's not all that bad. You won't hear the NRA bemoan the mental health/gun buying law passed after the Virginia Tech shooting.

The reporter to follow for actual facts: Ryan Reilly. The factor to keep track of, if you want to see how conservative media will process this: The Family Research Center's two-year-old designation as a "hate group," issued by the Southern Poverty Law Center. The SPLC hasn't responded to the developments in D.C. (I've asked), but I'm already seeing some sputter-and-point reaction blaming them -- or just begging the question of blame -- for what almost happened.


[This last statement apparently published before the link Connie referred to above -Ogo]

[Blaze Pascal]

Wow. It's bad enough not to report it. Now they're saying how happy they are.

I swear to God there's a place in hell for these people.

[Ogopogo]

My favorite comment to the SPLC response Connie linked to above:

woz said,

on August 15th, 2012 at 3:49 pm

I hate it when people hate hate groups.

[LAR]

My favorite comment to the SPLC response Connie linked to above:

woz said,

on August 15th, 2012 at 3:49 pm

I hate it when people hate hate groups.

Reading this I was thinking along the same lines. Calling something 'hate' or labelling a group a 'hate' group is really an attempt to incite hatred towards the target.

[Blaze Pascal]

I hate hate. I'd like to kill it.

[Connie Fournier]

My favorite comment to the SPLC response Connie linked to above:

woz said,

on August 15th, 2012 at 3:49 pm

I hate it when people hate hate groups.

Reading this I was thinking along the same lines. Calling something 'hate' or labelling a group a 'hate' group is really an attempt to incite hatred towards the target.

Of course it is. It's a classic technique for the censors. They even use it on an individual level, like when Jason Devine put up those posters of that young girl at the University of Calgary and urged people to "impress their views on her" about racism.

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[Kate Shaw]

When all I knew was that little blurb that said a "hero guard" had taken a bullet to keep an "intern" (aged 22) from going inside with a gun, who immediately begged, "Don't shoot me -- it's not about you ... " I said to myself:

HE'S GAY.

Glad to see I haven't lost my instinct.

Interesting to know that this brat was perfectly willing to shoot other people for his Cause, but unwilling to die for it. Typical.

[Edward Kennedy]

TIme for all pro life people to get into concealed carry. There are some lefturd mad dogs that Conservatives have to protect themselves from. Kill or be killed.

EDDIE EDDIE EDDIE....you are not as young as that picture...who is going to take you seriously when you talk like that- It is the quiet man of intention that is to be reckoned with...not the loud kid...who blurts "kill or be killed" - you are getting all unibomber on us- now stop that...You are not an 18 year old radical- You are supposed to be a mature man with a dangerous mind...not a cave man with a club....don't make me come down there kid....I like you- but not if you are going to be foolish...............We in our neighborhood back in the day had a term for guys like you...."Heat score"....

I am being logical and sensible. For example, do the police shoot back at those who would murder them? Why do they carry guns? What is the number one reason people acquire firearms? It is not for hobby hunting or target hobbying.

We all have the God given right to self defence and that is scriptural as well as common sense. I unequivocally reserve the right to kill ANYONE who would kill me INCLUDING LAW ENFORCEMENT people. A badge and a uniform does NOT mandate the right to murder or assault as I have seen some of these do to innocent people. My file on the fasps of the corrupt justice system of a place east of me chronicles examples of abuse of force, denial of rights, abuse of system, and assault against individuals.

A damned badge, a gun, a judgeship, or any title does NOT assure morality in the lives of these mere HUMANS.

To NOT defend using appropriate means is to cede one's rights to the "dark" side.

As I said, I am even enrolling in membership and instruction to become more proficient with handguns.

Now tell me what is so unibomber about asserting and practicing the right to defend oneself from death at the hand of a whacko lefturd? If police do it then why cannot anyone? Huh? Is that a radical posture for me to take? Should all succomb to murderers, and for that matter rapists, robbers, etc?

Tell me it ain't so.

[Edward Kennedy]

When all I knew was that little blurb that said a "hero guard" had taken a bullet to keep an "intern" (aged 22) from going inside with a gun, who immediately begged, "Don't shoot me -- it's not about you ... " I said to myself:

HE'S GAY.

Glad to see I haven't lost my instinct.

Interesting to know that this brat was perfectly willing to shoot other people for his Cause, but unwilling to die for it. Typical.

The little lefturd could have killed an innocent man, he deserves a fitting punishment and charges of attempted murder. We will see if the law is LEFTURDISH and deferential to this lefturd. The security guard if armed should have returned fire for sure.

[Alec Bachlow]

TIme for all pro life people to get into concealed carry. There are some lefturd mad dogs that Conservatives have to protect themselves from. Kill or be killed.

EDDIE EDDIE EDDIE....you are not as young as that picture...who is going to take you seriously when you talk like that- It is the quiet man of intention that is to be reckoned with...not the loud kid...who blurts "kill or be killed" - you are getting all unibomber on us- now stop that...You are not an 18 year old radical- You are supposed to be a mature man with a dangerous mind...not a cave man with a club....don't make me come down there kid....I like you- but not if you are going to be foolish...............We in our neighborhood back in the day had a term for guys like you...."Heat score"....

I am being logical and sensible. For example, do the police shoot back at those who would murder them? Why do they carry guns? What is the number one reason people acquire firearms? It is not for hobby hunting or target hobbying.

We all have the God given right to self defence and that is scriptural as well as common sense. I unequivocally reserve the right to kill ANYONE who would kill me INCLUDING LAW ENFORCEMENT people. A badge and a uniform does NOT mandate the right to murder or assault as I have seen some of these do to innocent people. My file on the fasps of the corrupt justice system of a place east of me chronicles examples of abuse of force, denial of rights, abuse of system, and assault against individuals.

A damned badge, a gun, a judgeship, or any title does NOT assure morality in the lives of these mere HUMANS.

To NOT defend using appropriate means is to cede one's rights to the "dark" side.

As I said, I am even enrolling in membership and instruction to become more proficient with handguns.

Now tell me what is so unibomber about asserting and practicing the right to defend oneself from death at the hand of a whacko lefturd? If police do it then why cannot anyone? Huh? Is that a radical posture for me to take? Should all succomb to murderers, and for that matter rapists, robbers, etc?

Tell me it ain't so.

If you are a man of real mental and spiritual power..You should be able to walk right through hell..with empty hands and a fearless face..You sound like a person without much real substance who has the mind of a boy with a BB gun who shoots pond frogs declaring that they are a danger. You have to have guts Edward..you can't go through life being afraid.

[Connie Fournier]

You make me suspicious, Alec. Very suspicious.

[Charles J. White]

If you are a man of real mental and spiritual power..You should be able to walk right through hell..with empty hands and a fearless face..You sound like a person without much real substance who has the mind of a boy with a BB gun who shoots pond frogs declaring that they are a danger. You have to have guts Edward..you can't go through life being afraid.

Alec,

You remind me of the word “Entrapment” - some of us have the IQ and sensory skills honed from the real world to understand exactly what you are attempting to do...Just leave Free Dominion, Connie has enough problems.

Edward, do us a favour, and don’t respond to Alec, and if you do, wait a few days, and think your response through very carefully before posting it.

[Alec Bachlow]

You make me suspicious, Alec. Very suspicious.

Connie my dear and distant friend...Being a guy who has been around the block a few times understands there is wise free speech...and there is unwise free speech...Talking about being suspicious ...I was just thinking the same thing about your esteemed member Edward Kennedy.

The man seems to have a reckless way of expressing himself...He almost boarders on advocating murder as a way of solving what he perceives are the problems in society..He may be an intentional site tainter...He is either foolish and out of control or he intentionally harms the reputation of your enterprise...

I don't trust anyone who can not control their base emotions...or one who advocates violence at every turn...He talks tough...as if he is an American cowboy - just looking for a reason to off someone. He seems to have this adventuring attitude that is transparently self serving...Like a hunter that needlessly like to shoot anything that moves.

Moderation- logic- careful consideration of the effects of free speech are a must- In my time on this earth- I have dealt with the highest of high (conservative) and the lowest of low ...I see the big picture..Free speech must be creative and if you want results - you have to be a lateral thinker- creative and manipulative...Connie...You consider me manipulative...Yes- I am...I like to manipulate things into order- law and order.

Edward on the other hand....would create chaos if he could- and bask in the mayhem..


This is not conservative- Conservative is to conserve what is good and tried and true by time...as for you recent legal difficulty------ Judges in general use to be appointed by the conservative high archy....BUT - if you know the system- Those in control these days play both sides of the spectrum- They manipulate the left and the right.....Being a moderate centralist....I simply judge what is good and what is bad- I don't care about the politics of the event ...That might make you suspect of my motives. If you want to rule society- you must not be one handed - It takes two hands and a moderate centralist mind...to bring about- peace- law and order.........Edward as I mentioned...seems to wear the colors of a common trouble maker- who's attitude will never bring about stability- Good luck Connie..sorry for not choosing sides and being as partisan as you wish...........I will continue to hover above and observe...from dead center- Where all can be seen.


YOU FOLKS HAVE BECOME PARANOID....have a nap for God's sake- the "entrapment" comment...is bizarre.

[Charles J. White]

I see the big picture..Free speech must be creative and if you want results - you have to be a lateral thinker- creative and manipulative...Connie...You consider me manipulative...Yes- I am...I like to manipulate things into order- law and order.

Edward on the other hand....would create chaos if he could- and bask in the mayhem..

Alec,

I was correct as usual, the few people who use the word "chaos" in general society, and who do so in a negative bent, do so because they believe in order, and of course, the words "law and order" were used before the word "chaos". Now I'm reminded of the word "nationalism", nationalism of course believes that "chaos" must be stamped out, that order must be brought to bear to those who refuse to follow the wishes of the state.

I'm asking anyone on Free Dominion who belives in free markets, individual choice, and private property to please IGNORE Alec at all costs. Otherwise you may find yourself in trouble.

[Edward Kennedy]

If you are a man of real mental and spiritual power..You should be able to walk right through hell..with empty hands and a fearless face..You sound like a person without much real substance who has the mind of a boy with a BB gun who shoots pond frogs declaring that they are a danger. You have to have guts Edward..you can't go through life being afraid.

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So says Alec and I wonder why he would not implore the police to "walk through hell" without their tazers, firearms, batons, etc within reach.

You have also raised my suspicion by not responding to my valid questions and concerns with your posts and I surmise it is because you cannot respond to what is sound logic on my part.

So what is it? Can you answer my valid concerns or are you what your words appear to be, an individual with a pacifist mindset that is either hypocritical or foolhardy?

Charles has indeed said what is unusual in that it agrees with Constance and that does not happen ever. Yet both see what I also see as the perfidity of your conversation and Maikeru has not even weighed in on this.

It is my learned opinion that the lefturd bent is to "get" me and it is also my "learned" opinion that in their malice and evilness, they would do it in any way, shape or form. I have had emails from girls/women that I have responded to in an appropriate and considerate manner, here over the last few years. These girls/women have disappeared as suddenly as they appeared only after it has become clear to them I am and have been set on my course of non involvement in an immoral manner with the opposite gender.

There have been other things that I have found odd in one way but not in another when I consider the big picture.

I am quite sure the style of some closely is correlative with that of lefturds in the greater scheme of things.

As to me being referred to in the terms of uncomplimentarianist subjectivety you have used, I will return to you what I offer to others, come on down to see me in person if you want to take the bull by the horns and demonstrate you are more than most lefturds, merely hiding like cowards behind their computers.

As to violence, I assure you I have gone through a process that was difficult because you are, or were correct in the inferral that saying is much easier than doing. I have been in the forced position where I had to be able to use lethal force in the past and the one incident on police record I am sure clearly identifies I was armed and willing to do what was necessary to defend a single mother, her child and myself. I assure you it would not be difficult for me to dust someone once I was fully convinced that person meant serious harm to me or others.

I did though have serious difficulty in being able to get by the violence and damage necessary if I had to defend myself without a weapon from a psychopath, the ones who inhabit lefturdia fequently and from time to time murder innoent people. The techniques are gross and even in what I considered my desensitized state, I had a hard time getting by what would be necessary to the point there are some things I had to eliminate while focusing on others that are actually more damaging but do not make me queasy.

I believe that while lefturds condemn violence, as usual, being the hypocrits they are, are the first to use it. Case in point is the recent shooting by a lefturd of a security guard at a pro family entity.

I have embraced the reality and truth that like firearms, violence is a tool not to be used until a last resort, but if it needs to be used, it is the only thing that will work and should be unhesitatingly facilitated effectively and quickly.

Rest assured that while I am angry, I am not irrational and will not hesitate to maim or kill anyone who is a proven threat to my safety or that of others be it by use of weapon or simple body impositional techniques.

Now as to what is irrational, I consider anyone insane who would brag about what you did, and having the ability to walk in a state of vulnerability through hell as you say, unarmed. To be sure, that is sheer insanity which makes me question things you have said in the past. Only a fool walks in rattlesnake country without high leg boots, or hunts cape buffalo, lions, and tigers with a pellet gun.

Do not fear, I am sure I would be able to walk the talk I talk, but aside from one incident, years ago, and another, two years ago when I got lost in Memphis and ended up in the wrong part of town, I have not had to be tested and do not desire to be although in those two serious tests of my mettle, I can look in the mirror and rest assured in my ability that was tried and proven true in each case.

Place your fears, and foolish conjecturing to rest, enforcement agencies well know I am passionate, as do my enemies, who have tried to label(libel) me as violent to draw attention from their malignant bent. What the record though does say, and I openly admit it, that I CAN and WILL be VIOLENT when it is necessary and any force I use will be, as the record also shows, necessary and controlled.

It appears that conversation always gives vent to character and your dirty underwear is showing, as it always does.

Again, if you want to banter with me, come on down. Your invective demonstrates indeed that you should perhaps take a good look at yourself relative to being of sound mind.

I agree with you Charles of course, and with Constance. Thank you for your insight.

As to you Alec, I have to reject your counsel, I would think even a sample from such a cup of stew crawling with telltale maggots would be fatal to any who ate of it.

Your recent and some of your past posts will go in the file as more proof for my side.