Mexico's Gun Supply and the 90 Percent Myth

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Re: Mexico's Gun Supply and the 90 Percent Myth

Postby smallLliberal » 04/ 27/ 12 4:50 pm

It may not be 90%, but it is a very significant percentage.

I think that half of the murders involving firearms in Canada are with guns smuggled in from the US. Thanks for that.

ATF: 68,000 guns in Mexico traced to U.S.

Mexican authorities have recovered 68,000 guns in the past five years that have been traced back to the United States, the federal government said Thursday.

The flood of weapons underscores complaints from Mexico that the United States is responsible for arming the drug cartels plaguing America’s southern neighbor. More than 47,000 people in Mexico have been killed in six years of violence between warring cartels.

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, in releasing its latest data covering 2007 through 2011, said that many of the guns seized in Mexico and submitted to the ATF for tracing were recovered at the scene of cartel shootings while others were seized in raids on illegal arms caches. All the recovered weapons were suspected of being used in crimes in Mexico.

At a North American summit in Washington on April 2, Mexican President Felipe Calderon said the U.S. government has not done enough to stop the flow of assault weapons and other guns.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/ ... story.html
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Re: Mexico's Gun Supply and the 90 Percent Myth

Postby Edward Kennedy » 04/ 27/ 12 5:12 pm

smallLliberal wrote:It may not be 90%, but it is a very significant percentage.

I think that half of the murders involving firearms in Canada are with guns smuggled in from the US. Thanks for that.

ATF: 68,000 guns in Mexico traced to U.S.

Mexican authorities have recovered 68,000 guns in the past five years that have been traced back to the United States, the federal government said Thursday.

The flood of weapons underscores complaints from Mexico that the United States is responsible for arming the drug cartels plaguing America’s southern neighbor. More than 47,000 people in Mexico have been killed in six years of violence between warring cartels.

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, in releasing its latest data covering 2007 through 2011, said that many of the guns seized in Mexico and submitted to the ATF for tracing were recovered at the scene of cartel shootings while others were seized in raids on illegal arms caches. All the recovered weapons were suspected of being used in crimes in Mexico.

At a North American summit in Washington on April 2, Mexican President Felipe Calderon said the U.S. government has not done enough to stop the flow of assault weapons and other guns.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/ ... story.html



Listen idiot, I can get a FAW at places within two hours drive from here but guns do not kill, PEOPLE DO. To be specific an MC10 is within ANYONE'S reach of they have the $$$. However, the shootings and crime is committed by criminals with handguns so they are the problem.

The police are always behind the times. There are grow ops in this area as well, in the sticks that I know of, and many more I am unaware of but I am not employed in law enforcement so that is not my business. I have come across them hiking and hunting and gotten the hell out of there quickly even though I was armed. Bad places to be, booby trapped and patrolled at times.

Had a law enforcement officer ask me to report the ones I have found, but not my line of work so not my business and besides, if the fasps looked at doing their jobs instead of being tax collectors, they would be able to be where the rubber meets the road but that would be too dangerous for these cowards...)(*&%^&(*)*(& I hate fasps!!!

The system will NEVER be able to control firearms...or drugs...or prostitution but people enable these things. As well the damned socialists refuse to allow penalties that would be a deterrent to such things. How about hanging damned pimps and human traffickers? Cannot do that, might catch a lieberal in the mix. :-k
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Re: Mexico's Gun Supply and the 90 Percent Myth

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Re: Mexico's Gun Supply and the 90 Percent Myth

Postby Edward Kennedy » 05/ 07/ 12 1:36 pm

BH, the article you posted a link to hits the truth about the n.n., they want to disarm the world and especially the USA as a disarmed public is defenceless from tyranny inposed by the system.

They tried it here using lieberal liars like cretin, rock, mclellan in imposing c-68 to enable banning and seizure, The rcmp kgb stooges had started targetting different types of guns and then seizing them.

Election of a CPC majority reversed that but it will be tried again at a later time.

If the USA falls the whole world will fall. The fate of the world depends again on the USA and if they fail then it will fall to God as I think the NWO would come under the u.n. with all manner of prophesied persecution and murders against opposers of their commie rulling control.
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Re: Mexico's Gun Supply and the 90 Percent Myth

Postby backhoe » 05/ 07/ 12 2:04 pm

Edward Kennedy wrote:BH, the article you posted a link to hits the truth about the n.n., they want to disarm the world and especially the USA as a disarmed public is defenceless from tyranny inposed by the system.

They tried it here using lieberal liars like cretin, rock, mclellan in imposing c-68 to enable banning and seizure, The rcmp kgb stooges had started targetting different types of guns and then seizing them.

Election of a CPC majority reversed that but it will be tried again at a later time.

If the USA falls the whole world will fall.
The fate of the world depends again on the USA and if they fail then it will fall to God as I think the NWO would come under the u.n. with all manner of prophesied persecution and murders against opposers of their commie rulling control.


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Re: Mexico's Gun Supply and the 90 Percent Myth

Postby Edward Kennedy » 05/ 07/ 12 2:10 pm

I am thinking I may have to lay my cane down in years to come to enable me to shoulder the ole thutty thutty in defending freedom and justice but I well think I may still be around...it is close I think.

The other side is getting impatient and that will be their undoing because if they rush things they will meet their eventual end at the uncompromising hands of Truth and Freedom.

to be on the other side will be an expressed death wish, He takes no prosoners.
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Re: Mexico's Gun Supply and the 90 Percent Myth

Postby backhoe » 05/ 25/ 12 6:20 pm

http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/

BOB OWENS: Three Key Fast And Furious Questions Still Unanswered.http://pjmedia.com/blog/three-key-fast-and-furious-questions-still-unanswered/

1- Who conceived this radical departure from normal law enforcement practices? Who conceived an operation requiring the deaths of hundreds or thousands of Mexican nationals for its success?
2- Which Department of Justice officials saw that Operation Fast and Furious needed hundreds or thousands of firearms to be given to the cartels and recovered at the scenes of crimes, knew that the crimes in question were likely to be murders of Mexican nationals or U.S. citizens along the Mexican border where the cartels operate, and approved the operation anyway?
3- Knowing that Operation Fast and Furious could be the political and criminal albatross that drives away moderates and Latino voters and destroys his chances of winning a second term, why does President Obama refuse to appoint a special prosecutor or to call for Eric Holder and his direct reports to resign?
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Re: Mexico's Gun Supply and the 90 Percent Myth

Postby backhoe » 06/ 01/ 12 7:49 am

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HOW’S THAT “SMART DIPLOMACY” STUFF WORKIN’ OUT FOR YA? The Hill: Mexican official: Fast and Furious ‘poisoned’ public opinion of US.http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/230367-mexico-amb-fast-and-furious-qpoisonedq-mexico-public-opinion-of-us

The Mexican ambassador to the United States on Thursday said a botched gun-tracking operation by America “poisoned” public opinion of the United States for the citizens of its southern neighbor. . . . “Fast and Furious has poisoned the well-spring of public opinion in Mexico as it relates to the cooperation and engagement with the United States,” Sarukhan said.

It wasn’t “botched.” It was meant to do everything that it did — except get found out. The goal was to create a climate of opinion that favored gun control, and it’s ironic to see Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) still trying to put it to this use.
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Re: Mexico's Gun Supply and the 90 Percent Myth

Postby backhoe » 06/ 07/ 12 6:21 pm

http://minx.cc/?post=329954

Gohmert, Issa Rip Holder On Inaction, Stonewalling on Fast & Furious, Holy Land Foundation

The first clip is Louis Gohmert. Earlier Holder had apparently said "there is a political aspect to this job." He references that, and then demands documents regarding the Holy Land Foundation prosecution. His point-- which is hard to refute-- is that the DoJ has disclosed documents to the convicted terrorists in the Holy Land Foundation prosecution, and yet refuses to disclose them to Congress.

So his question, which is great, is, "Can we at least get the documents you provided to convicted terrorists?"

Then he turns to Fast and Furious, and wants to know if Holder is any closer to finding out (wink, wink) who authorized the operation. Holder claims he still doesn't know, and avoids the question of whether he's any closer in his Big Investigation.

Holder's already announced the "investigation's" findings: "We may never know who authorized Fast and Furious."

So I'm sure he's right on top of exposing the guy he already knows authorized it.

Gohmert's a bit baffled that a major covert drug-running operation could be authorized... by no one, and no one putting his signature to that.

Um, I don't want to go Hitler, but people avoid signing off on things when they know there will be a problem with it later. Evidence of the guilty mind. No one objects to signing a credit card receipt for Domino's. But at a strip club, everyone brings cash.

Next, Issa continues demanding documents that Holder's refused to disclose for years. Issa specifically wants to know if he has prepared a list of documents which are responsive, but withheld -- Holder refuses to answer.

One more clip, unrelated: Issa did a funny thing, asking the administration what precisely the Obama Administration called a "green job" when compiling its statistics. Turns out, everything's a green job. Including any bus driver, bicycle shop clerk, and antique dealer ("recycled goods").

Oh: Holder admits White House helped craft Fast & Furious PR strategy.

I thought the truth was their strategy? Apparently not.

“We [Holder, Axelrod and the White House] have certainly talked about ways in which we could deal with the interaction between the Justice Department and Congress — about ways in which we would,” Holder said in questioning before the House Judiciary Committee.

Virginia Republican Rep. Randy Forbes pressed Holder further by asking him if Axelrod, Obama’s re-election campaign and the White House were involved in crafting the DOJ’s policy for dealing with press. He said they were. “In terms of trying to get any message out that was consistent with facts and make sure it was done in an appropriate way, I’ve had conversations like that with people in the White House.”

The Truth

It always needs a crafty PR campaign.


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Re: Mexico's Gun Supply and the 90 Percent Myth

Postby backhoe » 06/ 15/ 12 8:04 am

http://hillbuzz.org/fast-and-furious-goes-viral-22111

Fast and Furious Goes Viral
Posted on June 14, 2012 by TheTamminator // Hillbuzz

Fast and Furious, the gun running operation that the main stream media won’t even talk about, should be the Obama administration’s Watergate. Thousands of guns were dumped into the hands of the Mexican drug cartel, and a U.S. Border Patrol agent was killed by one of those guns.

If the mainstream media won’t cover this story, then we will. Here is a concise video that summarizes Fast and Furious perfectly. Please pass this video on to everyone you know. Post it on Facebook, twitter it, email it.

The government needs to be held accountable for this botched operation. The cover up alone is emblematic of the corrupt, despicable leadership that is running our “justice” department this very day.

Eric Holder, the Attorney General of the United States, lied under oath to Congress. If he is allowed to get away with this, then our country will no longer be ruled by law. It will be ruled by tyrants.


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Re: Mexico's Gun Supply and the 90 Percent Myth

Postby katsung47 » 06/ 22/ 12 4:15 pm

Border Patrol group calls for Holder’s resignation

By Jerry Seper

The Washington Times Monday, June 18, 2012

The National Border Patrol Council, which represents all 17,000 of the agency’s nonsupervisory agents, called Monday for the resignation of Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. for his role in the botched “Fast and Furious” gunrunning operation that resulted in the death of a U.S. Border Patrol agent.

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Re: Mexico's Gun Supply and the 90 Percent Myth

Postby backhoe » 08/ 29/ 12 1:21 pm

I got a tip:http://pjmedia.com/blog/fast-and-furious-prosecutions-coming/?singlepage=true

Plenty of embedded links @ source...


Fast and Furious: Prosecutions Coming?
Congressman Darrell Issa announces that charges could be filed soon.

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Bob Owens

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August 29, 2012 - 12:00 am

House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform Chairman Darrell Issa indicated on August 23 that the five Department of Justice officials the committee held responsible for Operation Fast and Furious may face criminal charges.

Speaking with Greta Van Susteren of Fox News, Issa discussed allegations that Deputy Assistant ATF Director William McMahon was “double-dipping,” drawing both a full-time salary from the ATF and a second full-time, six-figure salary from J.P. Morgan. The arrangement is suspicious, considering the controversy over McMahon’s role in Fast and Furious and the ATF’s persecution of whistleblowers who sought similar arrangements. J.P. Morgan was one of the Obama administration’s top donors in 2008 and was shielded by President Obama when it lost two billion dollars through poor investments. The close relationship between the administration and the concurrent salary for McMahon is a significant ethical conflict: it presents the appearance of the Obama administration using a prominent donor to funnel “hush money” to a highly placed official involved in a scandal, one which threatens President Obama and several cabinet officials.

While speaking of the controversy, Issa indicated that McMahon and other Fast and Furious co-conspirators would be referred for criminal prosecution:

Read the whole thing...
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Re: Mexico's Gun Supply and the 90 Percent Myth

Postby backhoe » 05/ 05/ 13 5:13 pm

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Mar3 2011, CBS - Agent: I was ordered to let U.S. guns into Mexico
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WASHINGTON - Federal agent John Dodson says what he was asked to do was beyond belief.

He was intentionally letting guns go to Mexico?

"Yes ma'am," Dodson told CBS News. "The agency was."

Note date. If we had newsmen instead of spearcarriers?
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